The Wolverine - AVS Forum
Forum Jump: 
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #1 of 31 Old 11-30-2013, 10:26 AM - Thread Starter
AVS Special Member
 
gonzalc3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2004
Location: Pretoria, South Africa
Posts: 1,221
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 14
Great black levels. Sound very good althought is not man of steele quality.

Decent flick!

Christian

My DVD and Blu Ray collection

JVC RS65, ST 130, B&W 803 Diamonds mains, B&W HTM2 Diamond center channel,B&W 805 Diamond surrounds, B&W DB1 subwoofer, Anthem D2v, Parasound Halo A51+A21,Oppo BDP 103,PS Audio Power Plant Premier,Darbee Darblet
gonzalc3 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 31 Old 12-02-2013, 11:35 AM
Advanced Member
 
HD-Master's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Bronx
Posts: 576
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 63
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzalc3 View Post

Great black levels. Sound very good althought is not man of steele quality.

Decent flick!
Not being Man of Steel quality is a good thing.
HD-Master is offline  
post #3 of 31 Old 12-04-2013, 09:08 PM
Advanced Member
 
seanbryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Knowhere
Posts: 538
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Just watched the Extended Edition. This is a beautiful looking transfer.
seanbryan is offline  
post #4 of 31 Old 12-04-2013, 10:53 PM
Member
 
Dion250's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by gonzalc3 View Post

Great black levels. Sound very good althought is not man of steele quality.

Decent flick!

Not very hard to beat Man of Steel on PQ.. Its bitrate starved and has alot of macro blocking in dark area's.

Wolverine however is amazing.. Lots of bitrate. Zero issues.
Dion250 is offline  
post #5 of 31 Old 12-05-2013, 01:53 PM
Member
 
mldardy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2010
Posts: 107
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 5 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by HD-Master View Post

Not being Man of Steel quality is a good thing.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dion250 View Post

Not very hard to beat Man of Steel on PQ.. Its bitrate starved and has alot of macro blocking in dark area's.

Wolverine however is amazing.. Lots of bitrate. Zero issues.

He said sound quality not PQ re: Man Of Steel and yes it would be very hard to beat MOS in that category.
mldardy is offline  
post #6 of 31 Old 12-05-2013, 08:24 PM
Member
 
Dion250's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Posts: 79
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by mldardy View Post


He said sound quality not PQ re: Man Of Steel and yes it would be very hard to beat MOS in that category.

oops you're right my mistake.
Dion250 is offline  
post #7 of 31 Old 12-12-2013, 05:38 PM
AVS Special Member
 
CharlesJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanbryan View Post

Just watched the Extended Edition. This is a beautiful looking transfer.
Curious, how long is the extended version?
CharlesJ is online now  
post #8 of 31 Old 12-12-2013, 05:45 PM
Advanced Member
 
seanbryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Knowhere
Posts: 538
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 15
Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJ View Post

Curious, how long is the extended version?

2:18 (including the credits).
seanbryan is offline  
post #9 of 31 Old 12-12-2013, 06:37 PM
AVS Special Member
 
CharlesJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanbryan View Post

2:18 (including the credits).

Thanks. So it is about 12 minutes longer than the regular one. Hope I get the extended version for xmas wink.gifbiggrin.gif
CharlesJ is online now  
post #10 of 31 Old 12-12-2013, 06:41 PM
Advanced Member
 
seanbryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Knowhere
Posts: 538
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 15
The extended cut is definitely superior to the theatrical version. Some of the characters are a bit more fleshed out, the violence is a bit more brutal (more bloody), and Logan's fight against the Ninjas was restored instead of everything from the trailers not being in that scene.

It's the same movie with no added subplots, but the extensions and "unsanitizing" make it feel more whole.
seanbryan is offline  
post #11 of 31 Old 12-13-2013, 08:24 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Mr.G's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Posts: 3,445
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 80 Post(s)
Liked: 113
For particulars on the two cuts go here:

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=274643

All I Really Need to Know I Learned in Movies

Mr.G is offline  
post #12 of 31 Old 12-13-2013, 04:16 PM
AVS Special Member
 
CharlesJ's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Posts: 3,233
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 83 Post(s)
Liked: 94
Quote:
Originally Posted by seanbryan View Post

The extended cut is definitely superior to the theatrical version. Some of the characters are a bit more fleshed out, the violence is a bit more brutal (more bloody), and Logan's fight against the Ninjas was restored instead of everything from the trailers not being in that scene.

It's the same movie with no added subplots, but the extensions and "unsanitizing" make it feel more whole.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr.G View Post

For particulars on the two cuts go here:

http://www.movie-censorship.com/report.php?ID=274643

Thanks for this great info. Sent email to family to get this if not too late wink.gifbiggrin.gif
CharlesJ is online now  
post #13 of 31 Old 12-13-2013, 05:47 PM
Advanced Member
 
seanbryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Knowhere
Posts: 538
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 15
That's a nice compilation of the differences between the two.

The only issue I had with the article is the author's opinion that The Wolverine is the weakest of the X-Men films. We're all entitled to our options, so my opinion is that this guy's opinion stinks. I find this to be arguably one of the best X films. If it wasn't for the odd shift in tone for the climax (and only the climax) I'd say it is the best. As it is, it's definitely up there with X2 and First Class. Those were all superior to the first "X-Men". X3 was mearly OK and ultimately disappointing. "X-Men Origins: Wolverine" stunk out load.

One of the complaints that this guy had about The Wolverine is that it didn't introduce any cool new mutants. Yeah, that's kinda the point. This is Wolverine's story, in Japan, going up against the Yakuza and ninjas. The weakest part of The Wolverine was the stuff with "Viper" (a mutant) and the climax, which just didn't match the tone of the rest of the film. Origins: Wolverine and X3 three had lots of cool new mutants, and they weren't good films.

That being said, Yukio was a "new mutant", Though her power wasnt "in your face". And she was an awesome new character. Best character in the film next to Logan.

Anyway, regardless of your taste in X-Men films, the extended verison of The Wolverine is definitely superior to the theatrical.
seanbryan is offline  
post #14 of 31 Old 12-16-2013, 01:15 PM
AVS Special Member
 
thehun's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Wine country CA
Posts: 7,246
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 8 Post(s)
Liked: 38
There is no need to call each other opinions stinky just because it different from yours. This is a movie not some scientific theory that one could present some logical and objective evidence to support one's claim. I also thought this movie was poor compared to the the other films that featured the Wolverine, and yes the film did have a " fish out of water" feel of it, but more importantly there was nothing there for me to seek repeated viewing of this film.
bulls likes this.

sent via Morse code...........

The Hun
thehun is offline  
post #15 of 31 Old 12-23-2013, 10:29 PM
Advanced Member
 
seanbryan's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Knowhere
Posts: 538
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 3 Post(s)
Liked: 15
The guy's opinion on the X-Men films stinks. That's MY opinion. Yours is kinda ripe there too buddy, you may want to air it out. wink.gif
seanbryan is offline  
post #16 of 31 Old 12-24-2013, 09:36 AM
Advanced Member
 
nathanddrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 900
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 64
None of the X-Men films have done the comics justice. I'm equally disappointed in all of them. My opinion smells great.
nathanddrews is offline  
post #17 of 31 Old 12-24-2013, 02:57 PM
AVS Special Member
 
lordcloud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 2,308
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

None of the X-Men films have done the comics justice. I'm equally disappointed in all of them. My opinion smells great.

Agreed, except the smelly part. biggrin.gif

I liked the movies, but the comics make them look like....comic books. Drama is so much better done in the comics, as well as scale and connecting with the characters. Now of course the comics have had years upon years to develop these things, but in the course of a few issues, the fact that these traits are so much better in the comics is very apparent. In my mind, the movies just haven't been taken seriously enough, and the focus has been spread too thinly. Both Wolverine movies have disappointed me. It seems as though Hugh Jackman has taken the character and made it his own, vs becoming the character and showing up who Wolverine and Logan are. Wolverine and The Phoenix Force are two of the most amazing characters in the Marvel universe, yet you wouldn't know it from the movies they're in. I personally want to see new direction, new directors, and new actors in all of these roles. I'd love to see Jackie Earle Haley cast as Wolverine(after he put on a bit of muscle) and a director known for storytelling and not big action flicks take the helm.

I LOVE MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

lordcloud is offline  
post #18 of 31 Old 12-25-2013, 01:03 PM
Advanced Member
 
nathanddrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 900
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 64
I'd prefer the Avengers method. Give the main characters their proper introductions and dramas in their own films, then bring them together in an X-Men movie against a common foe.

Wolverine
Cyke and Jean
Storm
Charles and Eric
Iceman

Toss in the rest of the cast throughout each film.
nathanddrews is offline  
post #19 of 31 Old 12-26-2013, 07:05 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Doug Schiller's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Posts: 1,183
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 21
If you gave me the option of watching a 2 hour Storm movie starring Halley Berry or the electric chair, I would say, strap me in!!!

I don't think the Avengers method would work for X-Men, the current system works, they just need better directors.
Doug Schiller is offline  
post #20 of 31 Old 12-26-2013, 08:05 AM
AVS Special Member
 
lordcloud's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Salt Lake City
Posts: 2,308
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 44
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Schiller View Post

If you gave me the option of watching a 2 hour Storm movie starring Halley Berry or the electric chair, I would say, strap me in!!!

I don't think the Avengers method would work for X-Men, the current system works, they just need better directors.

Agreed. Halle Berry was the absolute wrong choice for Storm, or....she needed much better direction.

I LOVE MOVIES!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

 

lordcloud is offline  
post #21 of 31 Old 12-26-2013, 08:42 AM
Advanced Member
 
nathanddrews's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Minnesota
Posts: 900
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 9 Post(s)
Liked: 64
Obviously you couldn't cast Halle anymore, she lacks the starpower necessary. Beyonce:

Brandon B and pokekevin like this.
nathanddrews is offline  
post #22 of 31 Old 12-27-2013, 01:23 AM
AVS Special Member
 
pokekevin's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Huntington Beach, CA
Posts: 5,064
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 101
Quote:
Originally Posted by nathanddrews View Post

Obviously you couldn't cast Halle anymore, she lacks the starpower necessary. Beyonce:


Priceless.
jidelite likes this.

No subwoofer I've heard has been able to produce the bass I've experienced in the Corps!

Must..stop...buying...every bluray release...
pokekevin is offline  
post #23 of 31 Old 12-29-2013, 04:04 PM
AVS Special Member
 
oleus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,552
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Watched the unrated 2d bluray and parts of the 3d disc.

Found the movie to be highly entertaining, and the pq was off the charts.

After watching the 2d unrated version I sampled some of the 3d - looked like a great 3d conversion to me , some reports of highly elevated black levels in the 3d version seemed completely wrong, the very very good black levels of the 2d disc seemed surprisingly intact with the 3d presentation.

I can see why this movie isn't every fan's cup of tea but I found it to be a very very good action movie with a nice Tokyo setting and a strong character performance from jackman.
oleus is offline  
post #24 of 31 Old 12-29-2013, 04:47 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
DavidHir's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Posts: 10,348
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 136 Post(s)
Liked: 415
Agreed, I really enjoyed it. The 2D extended PQ was indeed breathtaking (watching on calibrated Panasonic plasma 65VT60). I still need to check out the 3D.

DavidHir is online now  
post #25 of 31 Old 12-31-2013, 09:00 PM
Senior Member
 
Miles's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Halifax, Canada
Posts: 442
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 0 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Is the 3D disc the theatrical or extended cut?
Miles is offline  
post #26 of 31 Old 12-31-2013, 10:17 PM
AVS Special Member
 
Big Brad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Palmetto, FL
Posts: 1,760
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 36 Post(s)
Liked: 179
Just finished watching this earlier today and found it enjoyable. The audio quality ran circles around Man of Steel, which was an overly compressed and harsh sounding mix. It was nice to crank this movie up to reference and enjoy a decent dynamic range for a change.

PSN ID/XBOX Live! Gamertag: BiffCo
My SD/HD movie collection
Big Brad is online now  
post #27 of 31 Old 01-01-2014, 08:53 AM
AVS Special Member
 
oleus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,552
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 12
3d version is the theatrical cut.
oleus is offline  
post #28 of 31 Old 01-01-2014, 09:52 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Wendell R. Breland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Liked: 53
Like this one fairly well except for the handheld, shaky cam, fast cut junk in a couple of the action sequences.

Thought the sound track was very good. I do feel the surrounds in the 7.1 mix could have had a little more oomph. No complaints for the LFE channel.
Wendell R. Breland is offline  
post #29 of 31 Old 01-01-2014, 09:54 AM
AVS Special Member
 
Wendell R. Breland's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 1999
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 4,362
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 25 Post(s)
Liked: 53
Quote:
Originally Posted by oleus View Post

3d version is the theatrical cut.

Is this a native 3D film or a post process 3D?
Wendell R. Breland is offline  
post #30 of 31 Old 01-01-2014, 10:00 AM
AVS Special Member
 
oleus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Posts: 3,552
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 4 Post(s)
Liked: 12
Quote:
Originally Posted by Wendell R. Breland View Post

Is this a native 3D film or a post process 3D?

It was a post process but the parts I sampled looked pretty good. The unrated version is an exclusive bonus disc in the 3d set.
oleus is offline  
Reply Blu-ray Software

Tags
The Wolverine

User Tag List

Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page


Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off