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post #1 of 16 Old 02-10-2016, 01:41 PM - Thread Starter
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Spectre

So I just watched it last night after impatiently waiting and not watching it at the theatre. As far as the movie itself goes, I loved it but Casino Royale still remains my favourite Daniel Craig Bond film. The acting was superb and the twists weren't expected. It was a little hard for me to see Dave Bautista as anything but Drax the Destroyer, but he did a great job as well. Lea Seydoux is a stunner as always. Overall a great movie that included a hilarious scene that I had to rewind because I was laughing so hard (mouse). Going back to Bond roots by opening the way it did was a great choice.

How was the A/V? Fantastic. There were definitely a number of dark scenes, yet they still retained detail. The image was razor sharp, but not the best I have in my collection. The sound was stellar in DSU. In particular:

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For a number of movies I boost the trim on my subs by +3. No need here. The opening scene starts of with nice, tight bass notes and is a sign of things to come. The explosions provide visceral bass - no need for buttkickers as my near field sub gave plenty of tactile feedback. Dialogue is spot on and clear. If I could nit pick it would be that the music was a bit overbearing during the car chase scene - I would loved to have heard more of the guttural notes from the sports cars. Also, as great as the musical score was, it was rehashed from Skyfall which pulled me out of the movie a bit and too often made me think of its predecessor.

Anyway, that's my take. I'll be watching it again as soon as I get a chance - it's just so much fun to watch. It's sad that this is Craig's last Bond film, but maybe the next guy will be even better, who knows?
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Good to hear as I just bought it today and plan to watch this weekend as I did not see it in theaters either. It was a little disconcerting that AVS and other sites had no BR reviews posted yet. Since all the other Bond movies with Craig have had steller A\V, I thought it would be a pretty good bet that this would be the same and a safe blind buy.

I know this film had mixed reviews but I'm hoping it's because of the ADD crowd who want constant action rather than it being a weak movie. Was a big fan of CR and Skyfall but I found QOS the weakest of the 3 by a big margin. Hopefully it's closer to the spirit of Skyfall rather than QOS.
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It was a little disconcerting that AVS and other sites had no BR reviews posted yet.
Fox didn't mail screener copies until street date. You should start seeing reviews soon.

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Since all the other Bond movies with Craig have had steller A\V, I thought it would be a pretty good bet that this would be the same and a safe blind buy.
This movie has a different cinematographer and a different visual style than Skyfall. It has deliberately muted colors and flat contrast. It's not your typical home theater eye candy. I imagine that some people will be disappointed by that.

The bass is insane, especially the opening scene.

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Good to hear as I just bought it today and plan to watch this weekend as I did not see it in theaters either. It was a little disconcerting that AVS and other sites had no BR reviews posted yet. Since all the other Bond movies with Craig have had steller A\V, I thought it would be a pretty good bet that this would be the same and a safe blind buy.

I know this film had mixed reviews but I'm hoping it's because of the ADD crowd who want constant action rather than it being a weak movie. Was a big fan of CR and Skyfall but I found QOS the weakest of the 3 by a big margin. Hopefully it's closer to the spirit of Skyfall rather than QOS.
It's too bad QOS gets such a bad rap. I think the opening car scene and foot/bike scene is the best in the whole Craig Bond series. The bad guy is annoying as hell, but he gets it in the end. I found it to still be quite enjoyable but not quite up to scratch with the other ones.

Spectre is definitely more Skyfall-ish than QOS, so you're good to go. As far as mixed reviews, maybe I'm missing something but I thought it was a great movie. There was loads of action, lots of bass for the bass fanatics, and a good story. I'll admit that I wasn't as drawn in to the characters as much as, say, Casino Royale, but it had my attention for the entire film and iirc it's the longest running time of any Bond movie at 2 hrs 40 min. It didn't feel like it to me.
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and iirc it's the longest running time of any Bond movie at 2 hrs 40 min.
Spectre is 2 hrs. 28 min. But you are correct that it has the longest running time in the franchise.

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I found it to have slightly elevated black levels and a direct comparison to Crimson Peak showed me i wasn't insane. Same DP as Interstellar which had a similar feel w/ exception of digital vs 70mmIMAX. Still good but Deakins work on Skyfall was exceptional.
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I found it to have slightly elevated black levels and a direct comparison to Crimson Peak showed me i wasn't insane. Same DP as Interstellar which had a similar feel w/ exception of digital vs 70mmIMAX. Still good but Deakins work on Skyfall was exceptional.
That's actually disappointing for me to hear. Deakins work in Skyfall spoiled me and now I want more.
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I found it to have slightly elevated black levels and a direct comparison to Crimson Peak showed me i wasn't insane. Same DP as Interstellar which had a similar feel w/ exception of digital vs 70mmIMAX. Still good but Deakins work on Skyfall was exceptional.
It looked that way in the theater too.

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That's actually disappointing for me to hear. Deakins work in Skyfall spoiled me and now I want more.
Spectre appears to have been willfully shot to look different than Skyfall.

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The bass in the opening scene was much more prominent on the Blu-ray than they were in the two different theaters I saw the film in. Wonderful Blu-ray presentation.
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That's actually disappointing for me to hear. Deakins work in Skyfall spoiled me and now I want more.
I found Skyfall to be too cold and gloomy for my tastes and I was never fond of Deakin's work on it. The Shanghai fight is a good example. Yeah, it's pretty, but it serves no purpose and just as I find it hard to tell what is happening in shaky-cam fights, I find it equally hard to see two silhouettes fighting against a dark blue neon background. Spectre still isn't as colorful and vivid as I would like, but it's a step in the right direction.
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I find the premise of "we are everywhere" weakens the impact of the villain and makes it too cartoonish. It's a good throw back Bond but I don't think Spectre has the replay value like Casino Royal. The entire movie is about going from one exotic locale, find a person, repeat and rinse. Judith Dench has been a part of 7 Bond movies now and Spectre misses the opportunity of making M's death a bigger part of the plot.
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Not as good as Casino Royale but overall a good movie. The Bond/Blofeld connection would probably make Ian Fleming barf.
Looking forward to seeing Craigs replacement. Hes looking too old for the part and I never was crazy about a blonde 007.
A female M made things worse. Glad to see her finally die.
Hopefully Bonds personal revenge/vendetta/MI6 lone wolf days are done and he will have a proper mission in the next one.

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Watched this last night. I quite enjoyed it. Gotta get my hands on a DB10.

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I watched the Blu a couple of nights ago and have to echo the opening scene bass comments...wow! Talk about a nice audio system workout.
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Not as good as Casino Royale but overall a good movie. The Bond/Blofeld connection would probably make Ian Fleming barf.
Looking forward to seeing Craigs replacement. Hes looking too old for the part and I never was crazy about a blonde 007.
A female M made things worse. Glad to see her finally die.
Hopefully Bonds personal revenge/vendetta/MI6 lone wolf days are done and he will have a proper mission in the next one.
I liked her portrayal, plus she was based on the real life head of MI5. It's hard for me to make the adjustment to Ralph.

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I bought Spectre and just watched it last night. I liked it, but the one thing I noticed is that all the action scenes appeared a little boring. The action scenes seemed very predictable.
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