Originally Posted by maverick0716
At least a dozen that should be higher than DMC? Like what?
Not in particular PQ order:
Black Snake Moan - Not because there is boobies in HD. Daylight scenes look much, much better than DMC and has more "3D effect"
Crank - Its shot on video. Contrast too hot. Crappy movie. But at the end of the day the PQ is nice.
The Messengers - Not popular here at AVS. But for PQ standpoint its consistent. The dark scenes are nice. Details in most part is preserved. At the end of the movie where they show the sunflowers at full bloom. Nice.
The Patriot - Sharp and detailed. Excellent PQ.
Hellboy - About the same level as DMC but this one handles the dark scenes much better.
Curse Of the Golden Flower - A movie full of demo material. From the bright, colorful indoor scene to the climactic battle of which is shot at night. I'm very impressed with how this BD was able to preserve all the colorful costumes and weapons without too much artifacting and smearing (macroblocking is minimal).
Corpse Bride - Top of the list. I agree.
Happily N' Ever aFter
Dejavu - An excellent example where a high-bitrate VC-1 rears its pretty head
Phantom of The Opera - No love for the PQ of this movie at AVS. Is it because its a musical?
The Prestige - THIS is how dark scenes should look. Forget the movies I listed above. Just watch this side by side with DMC (assuming your viewing set is calibrated). Its not as bright and colorful nor there as much special effects, but when you look at the overall consistency of this AVC encoded disc its much superior overall.
Sure DMC looks very good, but what grinds my gears is putting it on top of a AVS tier list and the mantra "Completely flawless picture. No artifacts whatsoever, no matter how small." The first chapter where Elizabeth is outside while raining - macroblocking galore, The chapter where Jack and Bootstrap are sharing rum below deck - too much grain and at the same time losing picture detail. The chapter where we got introduced to Davy Jones . . . . . .
This is not even "blink and you miss it" problems. They are very obvious. Of course you can see problems too in the movies I mentioned before because there is no "flawless picture". But those movies in general look better in overall PQ over DMC. You can throw arguments against them then I will throw arguments against DMC. I don't bite into hype, I look at them objectively.
I have seen these movies many, many times on several calibrated setups (ISF or Spyder TV Pro) including looking at them veeeeeeery closely (I know, I know its creepy) using digital captures on a widescreen Dell monitor 2' feet away
As long as AVS know where I stand with this TIER thread its all good. You can keep DMC on top and I'm done with this subject.