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Mongoos150's Avatar Mongoos150
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Ah. There's an idea. Would people prefer the AVS reviews, or HDDb? It'd be easier to have the title of the film link to one or the other, not both. Let me know, people.
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How about the title linking to HDDb, then maybe a separate link - "(AVS Review)".
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This is the AVS review section I was referencing. Sorry, I should've posted a link

http://reviews.avsforum.com/showcat.php?cat=2

Evidently, some movies listed there actually have NO reviews. The first one I clicked on - Underworld: Evolution - has no reviews.
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Evidently, some movies listed there actually have NO reviews. The first one I clicked on - Underworld: Evolution - has no reviews.

Yeah, there are quite a few. Sort by 'Most Popular' to get the reviewed movies to the top of the list.
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Just a thought here - my preference would be for a link to a professional review. I could expand on that . . .
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Just a thought here - my preference would be for a link to a professional review. I could expand on that . . .

I would take the average score of 10 people reviewing a flick over 1 "pro" review anyday.

On a related note, BD reviews on AVS are lagging behind HD-DVD. Come on guys, post some up! It takes like 2 mins to give some ratings. I've done a couple...
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I just watched this BD and it has some damn amazing picture quality! IMO, it's either Tier 0 or very top of Tier 1 for sure.

1280x720p
42" Sony RP LCD (A10)
6 1/2 feet
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I would take the average score of 10 people reviewing a flick over 1 "pro" review anyday.

On a related note, BD reviews on AVS are lagging behind HD-DVD. Come on guys, post some up! It takes like 2 mins to give some ratings. I've done a couple...

We tried (however briefly) to post polls when a film came out and had a scoring system but I guess it cluttered things up too much which is where the reviews came from. IMHO the polls I saw were reflective of reality for films and the law of averages worked beautifully; others might disagree. It wouldn't be hard to write a web app in say .net that interacts with a few tables and provides ability to vote for a movie rating. If I wasn't so lazy I'd have done it by now...
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I just watched this BD and it has some damn amazing picture quality! IMO, it's either Tier 0 or very top of Tier 1 for sure.

I really want to place it there - really I do, but I need the information requested in the first post in pink text before I can place the movie into a tier and take your recommendation. If its tier 0 I'd like another person to validate this...
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I really want to place it there - really I do, but I need the information requested in the first post in pink text before I can place the movie into a tier and take your recommendation. If its tier 0 I'd like another person to validate this...

Whoops, I forgot. I completely agree with that idea.
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I would definitely agree with others at being a high tier 1. Not sure if it merits a Tier 0, but if people will post their viewing distance, screen technology (model would be great), whether you've calibrated it and a timestamp, we can take your input into consideration. Thanks all.
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I would definitely agree with others at being a high tier 1. Not sure if it merits a Tier 0, but if people will post their viewing distance, screen technology (model would be great), whether you've calibrated it and a timestamp, we can take your input into consideration. Thanks all.


I think high tier 1 would suffice; I'd like someone with a 1920X1080 resolution to provide feedback on this film as any artifacting will be more apparent at this resolution.

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House of Flying Daggers looked AWESOME to me...I have no clue as to why it's at the bottom of the list. It may have been a tad soft, but it wasn't bad at all.
I wouldn't hesitate to use this movie to show off my system.
Using a PS3 and a Philips 42" 1080p LCD TV (42PFL7432D/37).
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House of Flying Daggers looked AWESOME to me...I have no clue as to why it's at the bottom of the list.

Get ready to get flamed ....... it is without any doubt the absolute worst representation of Blu-ray PQ.
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Get ready to get flamed ....... it is without any doubt the absolute worst representation of Blu-ray PQ.

Bring it on. I really don't think it should be at the bottom of the list, but whatever.
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Bring it on. I really don't think it should be at the bottom of the list, but whatever.

I think its TIER 0.
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Maybe we should add a category HIGHER than TIER 0 just for House Of Flying Daggers.
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Maybe we should add a category HIGHER than TIER 0 just for House Of Flying Daggers.

Or maybe a tier for EACH movie?
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Ummm HOFD is not moving...and no to a tier for each movie and no for a category higher than tier 0 NO NO NO!!! LunacY! Sounds like you need to check your eyes or your PS3
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*Sigh* Come on people. Let's keep this a professional thread with relevant info
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House of Flying Daggers looked AWESOME to me...I have no clue as to why it's at the bottom of the list. It may have been a tad soft, but it wasn't bad at all.
I wouldn't hesitate to use this movie to show off my system.
Using a PS3 and a Philips 42" 1080p LCD TV (42PFL7432D/37).

Does it look the same as the preview for it from the PS3 store on your setup? I haven't seen this BD, but preview looks like garbage.
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If you liked HOFD I'm interested to kno how u'll like Curse of The Golden Flower? Rent it and let us kno ur thoughts :-)
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House of Flying Daggers looked AWESOME to me...I have no clue as to why it's at the bottom of the list. It may have been a tad soft, but it wasn't bad at all.
I wouldn't hesitate to use this movie to show off my system.
Using a PS3 and a Philips 42" 1080p LCD TV (42PFL7432D/37).


I honestly believe you, but I think it's probably because your set is 42". At 65" and above things look way different...
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I honestly believe you, but I think it's probably because your set is 42". At 65" and above things look way different...

Even if you sit 4 feet away from a 42?
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Get ready to get flamed ....... it is without any doubt the absolute worst representation of Blu-ray PQ.

Maybe not the worst, but I definitely think it's rated a little too highly in the tier.

My humble setup:
32xbr1 (non calibrated)
PS3 feeding 720p

I'm not asking for any changes, I just think the movie seemed a bit soft compared to how other BDs looked on my setup (Apocalypto, DMC, Casino Royale, etc).

EDIT: Good lord, I didn't realize the OP was referencing House of Flying Daggers. I thought he was talking about Curse of the Golden Flower. House of Flying Daggers looks great? Wow.

Anyhow, move along...there's nothing to see here.

Brandon
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I honestly believe you, but I think it's probably because your set is 42". At 65" and above things look way different...

Even at larger viewing displays, movie PQ is relative. Perhaps HOFD is one of the first BDs he's seen? All I know is, even at a meager 32" I can tell the difference between a Tier 1 movie and a Tier 3 movie. Now when I upgrade to 46" or 52" in a couple of months, I'll be even more stingy with the PQ

Brandon
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I have 32" (calibrated) LCD and I sit about 5 feet away from the screen and HOFD still looks like crap.
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I have 32" (calibrated) LCD and I sit about 5 feet away from the screen and HOFD still looks like crap.

Can you be more specific?
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Can you be more specific?

specific about what ? My setup or the movie ?
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specific about what ? My setup or the movie ?

The movie. "Crap" tells me that you didn't think it looked good, but was it soft, edge enhanced, something wrong with the color, artifacted? The movie, not the crap.
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