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Old 10-05-2007, 06:56 AM - Thread Starter
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Austin, on second thought I vote to have Trading Places sent down to the bottom of tier 2, and Coming to America to the top of tier 3. I was watching Casino Royale and it looks significantly better than both titles, and I'd say Trading Places looked better than Coming to America.

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Dave Matthews is now Tier 0...this is the PREMIER Blu-Ray I've seen. Stunning Picture, Amazing Audio...simply amazin on my PRO-FHD1 @ 1080p/24

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I noticed that a lot of the new releases in the tier list don't show whether it has PCM, True HD or DTS MA, are we no longer listing the lossless tracks?
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A new tier king???
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A new tier king???

Yes, we've moved it to tier 0. Pretty awesome picture, slightly better than what's been aired on MHD.

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Alright, I finally added the links to the first post. I checked most and they link to the correct page on hddb.net . If you find any errors, it's my fault, don't bitch at Austin or Mongoos
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Trying something else...I added video and audio details to each title in the first two tiers. Any opinions? Too hard to read? Too much? Like it? Let me know.
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Slow,
I like it. It's great to have as much info as possible. Thanks for all your hard work!!
??How are you deciding which audio to include for movies that have multiple "upper tier" audio formats??
Examples I know of would be: 300 and Ghost Rider which both have PCM and TrueHD. I ask because I don't personally know which one is better. They both sound great to me.

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Just got The Condemned ~ very clean, sharp picture (reminded me a lot of Crank with the closeups of the faces, as well as the very sharp water images). I would put it lower Tier 1/upper Tier 2.

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I like it. It's great to have as much info as possible. Thanks for all your hard work!!
??How are you deciding which audio to include for movies that have multiple "upper tier" audio formats??
Examples I know of would be: 300 and Ghost Rider which both have PCM and TrueHD. I ask because I don't personally know which one is better. They both sound great to me.

Thanks for the feedback.

I guess I skipped over 300 too quickly to notice it had both True HD and PCM. As I was adding them, I would pick the best of the audio codecs listed and use that. As I'm finishing the list, I'll be sure include all lossless formats if more than one is available. Thanks for drawing that to my attention
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Trying something else...I added video and audio details to each title in the first two tiers. Any opinions? Too hard to read? Too much? Like it? Let me know.

Great job, thanks for the hard work. Any plans to do the rest of the tiers?
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Finally got my copy of Fantastic Four ROTSS from Amazon and watched it last night. Definitely deserving of its upper half Tier 1 status. Lots of pop to the image and an excellent transfer overall. Great audio as well.
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Great job, thanks for the hard work. Any plans to do the rest of the tiers?

Most definately I just did the first two for now to see for myself how it looked and to get some feedback.
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watched f4 silver surfer..........last nite.




horrible movie, so glad i did not spend $ on this...audio was good just not much of it.
pq was decent....no way near what i expected. i was expecting potc type pq.
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I would put house of 1k corpse in high silver, it is one of the best transfers i have seen, i am watching on a 26" lcd ps3 connected through hdmi, and sitting about 2-3 feet away


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house looks stunning...really really clean...I would agree with high silver

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Finally got my copy of Fantastic Four ROTSS from Amazon and watched it last night. Definitely deserving of its upper half Tier 1 status. Lots of pop to the image and an excellent transfer overall. Great audio as well.

I'd watch it if I could but my BD-P1200 won't play it because it needs a firmware update that doesn't exist...yet.

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Watched 16 Blocks last night, and I think the PQ is more deserving than its current Tier 3 status. Sure, there were a few scenes that were slightly less than stellar on PQ; but, most of the movie had a crisp clean image. IMO, it rightly deserves an upper Tier 2.

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watched f4 silver surfer..........last nite.




horrible movie, so glad i did not spend $ on this...audio was good just not much of it.
pq was decent....no way near what i expected. i was expecting potc type pq.


I was blown away on both PQ & AQ, better picture than Pirates IMO..by far the best PQ I have seen so far. everything is so crisp and clear-flawless picture, and the sound is A+ as well...
(the movie did suck though, they really should have went really dark with the movie like Batman Begins)
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I just watched this one tonight (the rerelease, not the one that came with the PS3) and I was expecting very mediocre and was pleasantly surprised! The colours are what mostly caught my eyes........very vibrant and realistic looking. There was also plenty of detail in the picture.......definitly more deserving of it's Tier 4 rating. I'd say it deserves to be in the middle of Tier 3 at least.

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I was blown away on both PQ & AQ, better picture than Pirates IMO..by far the best PQ I have seen so far. everything is so crisp and clear-flawless picture, and the sound is A+ as well...
(the movie did suck though, they really should have went really dark with the movie like Batman Begins)

I agree about the PQ in Silver Surfer; I have not seen anything better than this.
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What's the verdict on Troy - DC ?

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What's the verdict on Troy - DC ?

Very mediocre PQ; that's my verdict.
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FF4 Silver Surfer is utterly stunning on my setup, Samsung 4065F 1080p LCD TV... It was one of the few titles that made guests say "wow" out loud in the middle of watching it... I'd have to rank it among the best of the best. Pretty good action blockbuster flick as well, but I suppose that's irrelevant.
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Very mediocre PQ; that's my verdict.

I haven't seen it, but I own the original edition, which apparantly is practically the same picture quality as the extended cut.......solid picture quality but nothing spectacular.

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FF4 Silver Surfer is utterly stunning on my setup, Samsung 4065F 1080p LCD TV... It was one of the few titles that made guests say "wow" out loud in the middle of watching it... I'd have to rank it among the best of the best. Pretty good action blockbuster flick as well, but I suppose that's irrelevant.

The PQ is so outstanding that I scarcely pay attention to the movie.
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I have to say this is one of the best PQ movies (FF4SS) I have seen on my TV (51 Sony RPTV Prof ISF). It had a lot of 3d pop, definetly tier 0.
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Alright, video and audio specs have been added to each title in the first post. I've also added the list of unranked titles at the bottom of that post, and reposted below.

If you spot any errors or omissions, please let me know. I'll try to update the list as soon as new BDs are released each week.
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Unranked Titles:

28 Days Later Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
28 Weeks Later Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
A Christmas Story Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
A Few Good Men Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
A Room with a View Video: ? | Audio: DD EX
A View from Space With Heavenly Music Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DD
Alexander Revisited Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Alice Cooper: Live at Montreux, 2005 Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DD / DTS
All the King's Men Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Annapolis Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Are We Done Yet? Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Arlington Road Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Bikini Destination - Triple Fantasy Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DD / DTS
Blue Planet (IMAX) Video: VC-1 | Audio: TrueHD
Bruce Springsteen with the Sessions Band: Live in Dublin Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Bubble Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DD
Bulletproof Monk Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
Chris Botti: Live (With Orchestra and Special Guests) Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Dawn of the Dead Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Day of the Dead Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Deliverance Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Delta Farce Video: VC-1 | Audio: PCM (7.1)
Discovery Atlas: Brazil Revealed Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Discovery Atlas: China Revealed Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Discovery Atlas: Italy Revealed Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Disturbia Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DTS
Doctor Strange: The Sorcerer Supreme Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DTS-HD MA (7.1)
Dragon's Lair Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DD
Edward Scissorhands Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
Elvis Costello & the Imposters: Club Date - Live in Memphis Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DD / DTS
Enter the Dragon Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Freedom Writers Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DD
From Hell Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
G.I. Jane Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Galapagos Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Gods and Generals Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Gothika Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Gridiron Gang Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
HDNet World Report - Shuttle Discovery's Historic Mission Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DD
House of 1,000 Corpses Video: VC-1 | Audio: DTS-HD HR (7.1)
House of Flying Daggers Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Hustle and Flow Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DD
Immortal Beloved Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: TrueHD
Jailhouse Rock Video: VC-1 | Audio: TrueHD
Kiss of the Dragon Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
Ladder 49 Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Lady in the Water Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Little Man Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Memoirs of a Geisha Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Men of Honor Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
Muriel Anderson - Guitarscape Planet Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DD
Nature's Colors Video: ? | Audio: TrueHD
Nature's Journey Video: VC-1 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
Nip/Tuck - The Complete Fourth Season Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Out for Justice Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Perfect Stranger Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Phone Booth Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
Primeval Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Reign Over Me Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Remember the Titans Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Rescue Me - The Complete Third Season Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Rio Bravo Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Running With Scissors Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Secret Window Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Shooter Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DD
Smallville - The Complete Sixth Season Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Surf's Up Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM / TrueHD
Syriana Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Tekkon Kinkreet Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
The Benchwarmers Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
The Big Hit Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
The Condemned Video: VC-1 | Audio: DTS-HD HR (7.1)
The Day After Tomorrow Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
The Getaway (1972) Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
The Last Waltz Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
The Lives of Others Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
The Lookout Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
The Omen Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
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The Searchers Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
The Sopranos - Season 6, Part 1 Video: VC-1 | Audio: PCM
The Terminator Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
The Wild Bunch Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
Tony Bennett - An American Classic Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Troy (Director's Cut) Video: VC-1 | Audio: PCM
Twilight Zone - The Movie Video: VC-1 | Audio: PCM
Tyler Perry's Daddy's Little Girls Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM (6.1)
Vacancy Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Viva Las Vegas Video: VC-1 | Audio: TrueHD
Volver Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
Waiting... (Unrated and Raw) Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM (7.1)
Warriors of Heaven Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: PCM
We Are Marshall Video: VC-1 | Audio: TrueHD
Weeds Season 2 Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM (7.1)
Wild Hogs Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Wild Things (Unrated Edition) Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: PCM
Windtalkers Video: MPEG-2 | Audio: DTS-HD MA
Wings of Honneamise Video: MPEG-4 | Audio: TrueHD
Wyatt Earp Video: VC-1 | Audio: DD
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I have to say this is one of the best PQ movies (FF4SS) I have seen on my TV (51 Sony RPTV Prof ISF). It had a lot of 3d pop, definetly tier 0.

Is Netflix accurate in listing Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer as a 1.85:1 aspect ratio? That would be lovely.

You guys have me eager to see this title so much so that I put it at the top of my queue, which means it should only take 6 weeks for me to receive it . Seriously, I've had TMNT and Black Snake Moan up there for at least 4 weeks and it still says "very long wait" for TMNT. I guess I'll see if Blockbuster has it. Do they still have those?

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