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STEVEfromLA's Avatar STEVEfromLA
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I really enjoy this thread. Thank you to those who have really put some strong effort in getting this to be a very reliable source on picture quality.

I do think though that with titles like "The Warriors", "Fifth Element", and the grainy "300" as Tier 1 titles, that the Prestige and Ice Age Meltdown as very underestimated as Tier 2 entries.

I thought that the picture quality, pop, and on Ice Age and Prestige definitely need to be in tier 1 at least compared to the three previously listed tier 1 titles.

I am using 1080P 56" Samsung, and am less than 10 feet away when viewing.
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Just Watched Spidey 3 - Definately High Tier 1/Low Tier 0. Awesome PQ...
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Finally got around to watching my import copy of Tomb Raider 2 (Lara Croft - Cradle of Life). I would give it a Tier 1 video rating - the picture clarity reminded me of Casino Royale and Layer Cake. Watching with the PS3 on a 720p projector at 14' from a 106" screen. The english audio track is only 1.5Mbps DTS, but still very good and has great LFE. I would give the audio a 4 of 5 stars. A really fun movie too!
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Just Watched Spidey 3 - Definately High Tier 1/Low Tier 0. Awesome PQ...

Cool!
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Not sure if this was missed on page 35, but I'd still like to point out that "Galapagos" is top Tier 1 if not Tier 0 reference material. I know I don't post here a lot, but my set (Samsung LN-T4066F) is properly calibrated and the PQ is just unreal.

If reservations exist about adding "Galapagos" to Tier 0 prior to feedback from another viewer or two, then that's cool. But that Blu-Ray disk IS, at minimum, top Tier 1 reference material.
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Just Watched Spidey 3 - Definately High Tier 1/Low Tier 0. Awesome PQ...


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I'm not trying to provoke a controversy but am relatively new to HDM and do have a question about placement of two movies in the tier. While the Battle of the Bulge is a good transfer of an older movie, does it really belong in tier 1? The other movie is Bridge to Terabithia. Why is it languishing in tier 2; to me it's definitely tier 1?

Panny 50" 600U 1080i, Panny 10a, 7.5 feet.
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Just saw Black Book last night AND i WAS IMPRESSED! The PQ AND AQ were top notch.
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Any opinions on the "Day after tomorrow" ?...I played it last night and I wasn't to imprest with the video quality.... Some scenes looked really good and some were kind of soft.
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Any opinions on the "Day after tomorrow" ?...I played it last night and I wasn't to imprest with the video quality.... Some scenes looked really good and some were kind of soft.

IMO, the whole movie is soft.
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Has anybody seen Reign Over Me yet?

Brandon

I got it from Netflix. The movie is pretty good, but the transfer is kind of 'meh'. I would say low Tier 2. The PQ was pretty soft in my opinion.
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Alright guys, the list of unranked titles is rapidly growing. I know many of you have seen some of these films, especially Kubrick's, so give your opinions on PQ!

I've added the new releases from this week to the first post, and filled in some missing audio/video information on some other titles.

Check the first post for the updated list of unranked titles:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...85&postcount=1
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Alright guys, the list of unranked titles is rapidly growing. I know many of you have seen some of these films, especially Kubrick's, so give your opinions on PQ!

I've added the new releases from this week to the first post, and filled in some missing audio/video information on some other titles.

Check the first post for the updated list of unranked titles:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showp...85&postcount=1

Heres' my two cents:

All of them seen in a Philips 42" 1080p TV and PS3 through HDMI. 7-8 feet from screen...

Blue Planet: Good picture quality, middle to high Tier 2

Shooter: Looks even better than Blue Planet and no problems with fast-moving scenes; and the snow shot looks amazing; middle to low Tier 1.

Wild Hogs looks even better; not a terribly good movie, although funny at times, but the picture was amazing; definitely middle Tier 1.

I also own Immortal Beloved, but I haven't convinced the wife to watch it, so I'll report later.
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Watched Meet the Robinsons last night, and I give it a low tier 0/very top tier 1 rating. Colors are vibrant and the 3D effect is unreal.

Viewed on Sony KDS55A3000 DLP/PS3/ 6-10 ft in 1080P:

AustinSTI's Avatar AustinSTI
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Shooter, Wild Hogs, Blue Planet, and Robinsons Added

Nice setup Louie!!
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Shooter, Wild Hogs, Blue Planet, and Robinsons Added

Nice setup Louie!!

Thanks!
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Shooter, Wild Hogs, Blue Planet, and Robinsons Added

Nice setup Louie!!

Wow, 2 new tier 0 titles in 1 week

Austin, there are 5 movies listed in tier 0 but your counter still says 4.
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I agree with the tier rating of Underworld (unrated) and Underworld evolution. I recently watched both and the original Underworld (unrated) on BlurRay is fantastic. The picture and sound are awesome. So a couple of nights later I rented and watched Evolution and was sooooo disappointed. Great film but terrible transfer. Weird, huh?

Marcus
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Why are PotC 1&2 in two different tiers? From all the reviews I've read, they both look equally amazing.

I have both movies, but we're not getting the XBR4 until Christmas, so I can't truly compare them yet.
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I agree with the tier rating of Underworld (unrated) and Underworld evolution. I recently watched both and the original Underworld (unrated) on BlurRay is fantastic. The picture and sound are awesome. So a couple of nights later I rented and watched Evolution and was sooooo disappointed. Great film but terrible transfer. Weird, huh?

Marcus

Evolution was a launch title and has been out for about a year and half. Needless to say, advancements have been made in transfer quality and that's why Underworld looks so good compared to Evolution.
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Has anybody else seen Disturbia yet?

Watched it last night (46", 1080p24, PS3, 8 feet), and thought it was roughly a high Tier 2 title. And it has been placed around there (low Tier 1), so I'm just curious if anybody else feels differently.

Brandon
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Evolution was a launch title and has been out for about a year and half. Needless to say, advancements have been made in transfer quality and that's why Underworld looks so good compared to Evolution.

Any possibility that they will re-master and reissue Underworld?
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Watched 28 Weeks Later last night on a Philips 42" 1080p LCD TV (42PFL7432D/37) with PS3 and Onkyo TX-SR605. Viewing distance 8ft.

Some scenes were incredibly sharp/detailed. Some night shots(and day) were very grainy.
Not sure if it was intended to be this way or not. But it wasn't very consisent. I attribute it to bad camera work. I think this one should go in the Bronze Tier.
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I watched the Shining last night on my HD-DVD player. (I have a bunch of blu-ray titles and a PS3). Considering the video encode is the same, the comments should be the same here. Honestly, I was really, really impressed with this transfer. Mind you, it's no Tier 0, but for a 27 year old film the sharpness was good in some scenes and as well as the colors.

My ranking? I'd probably put it a little above Trading Places.

Still waiting on 2001...

Chris
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I expect more and more titles to be in the upper areas like Tier 0. As studios get good a transfers there becomes less excuse for a poor transfer to occur. I fully expect movies like the Die Hard Quad, Simpsons, Rat, Cars to all fall in upper tier 1 or tier 0. We'll see
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I expect more and more titles to be in the upper areas like Tier 0. As studios get good a transfers there becomes less excuse for a poor transfer to occur. I fully expect movies like the Die Hard Quad, Simpsons, Rat, Cars to all fall in upper tier 1 or tier 0. We'll see

I agree, I am personally waiting for the Cars movie, and probably the Simpsons, and I have high hopes for them.
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Has anybody else seen Disturbia yet?

Watched it last night (46", 1080p24, PS3, 8 feet), and thought it was roughly a high Tier 2 title. And it has been placed around there (low Tier 1), so I'm just curious if anybody else feels differently.

Brandon


I agree with you...tier 2 at best.
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I watched Galapogos expecting to be blown away but I wasn't really. Although it was a nice looking disc overall, i would put it around the same ballpark as Planet Earth...maybe lower Tier 1/upper Tier 2. I really wanted to love this disc after reading all the reviews for it.

I also watch Fantastic Four....now I was definitely impressed by PQ of this disc. Definitely upper Tier 1. And after seeing the opening previews on that disc, which showed The Simpsons...and Die Hard, I'm definitely anticipating that these new crop of high profile films will be nothing less than upper Tier 1 material.

My tv: Samsung 4665f 5-6ft viewing distance
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I just watched Trading Places last night........and boy was I impressed! It looked great, and not just for an old movie. Definitly deserves its place in the Silver Tier.
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Mr. Brooks

Watched Mr. Brooks last nite and I think that Fox did an excellent job. PQ was very sharp with a lot of detail. Only noticed some grain in couple of shots but other than that the movie gorgeous. I will vote for it to be in high Teir 1

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