Originally Posted by SteelSD
Screen caps might suggest such, but they don't "prove" such. In any case, feel free to link me. I'm not trying to be abrasive. I'd just like to compare those screenshots to what I'm seeing on my display.
Screen caps don't prove it by themselves, but help support my opinion based on what I saw with my own eyes on my own screen
Take a look at Blade Runner at @17:21 into the film (our introduction to Rachael). Maybe that example of blurry-face soured me, but I don't think so. I paused quite a bit during Blade Runner and saw many examples of soft picture quality. To be fair, we also see a good number of crisp scenes with excellent detail.
I know exactly what scene you are talking about, and I very seriously doubt that anyone here will argue with you: that scene is, indeed, "soft"! But as you say, there were also a good number of "crisp" scenes with excellent detail. I thought that there were many more of those types of scenes than I was expecting, which was a fantastic surprise.
I've viewed "2001" a second time now. I've seen excellent detail and solid pop from many scenes. Early on, I wondered about softness with the scene in which the pen was floating, but that was a narrow-focus scene. The pen was crystal clear while the background was fuzzy. We see that in other scenes, and I might suggest that our attention is drawn away from the camera target because we expect everything to be crystal clear. My only concerns about the film after a second viewing are the lack of truly deep blacks and possibly some color degradation toward green on the edges over a couple of space scenes. It's not Tier 0, but it's certainly ahead of Blade Runner, IMO.
First of all, I would like to commend you on your description of what you are seeing on 2001. Well done, and this is what this thread is about, as it helps further the analysis and discussion of the movies PQ.
I just found the overall quality of Blade Runner to be better than 2001. Blade Runner had fewer artifacts than 2001, better contrast and "pop", and even slightly better detail overall.....in my opinion.
I'm not saying there is a night and day difference, because there certainly isn't. They are fairly close.
That doesn't mean my opinion is the end-all-be-all as to PQ, but I see a noticable difference between the two films, and it's not in Blade Runner's favor.
I feel exactly the same way, except I would say not in 2001's favor.
No one is playing the "martyr". But when feedback is asked and then not considered (for weeks), I get a little grumpy. The comments I made about "elitism" were borne of frustration. For that, I apologize.
Keep up the good work with your excellent descriptions as you have done here, and believe me, your comments will definitely be considered.
The people who are maintaining this list admittedly do not update it on a daily basis. In fact, it may only be weekly if that. But once they do update it, they tend to do a pretty good job and usually catch all of the titles that have been discussed for movement on the list (up or down).