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Noah has got a 5 star glowing PQ review on Blu-ray.com

On my radar
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Noah has got a 5 star glowing PQ review on Blu-ray.com

On my radar
It's on my radar as well, since Paramount sent me a review copy.
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Noah has got a 5 star glowing PQ review on Blu-ray.com

On my radar
Cool! This thread should be "flooded" with reviews soon!

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Ground Control to Psychoelectric Girl: Complete Series

recommendation: Tier 1.25*

Now out of print, this NIS America set presents the 2011 anime's fluid animation in perfect clarity. The thirteen episodes are spread over two BDs. Beautifully animated by animation house SHAFT, the show easily qualifies for the upper bounds of Tier One.

Given the occasional problems with banding noted on other anime productions, this set is free of that concern with a solid AVC video encode that transparently reproduces the digitally scanned animation. A real visual treat in 1080p resolution with vibrant colors and intricate background designs.
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It's an unheralded but excellent Spaghetti Western. I don't want to get your hopes up, it's not as entertaining as The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly. The 4-disc set occasionally goes down on Amazon around $23. You get two Blu-rays, a DVD, and Morricone's soundtrack on CD in it. In a bit of irony it probably received a better film transfer than that iconic Westerner.
Newbie here -- been learning (not lurking) over the past few months. It has been a delight learning about the Tiers and experiencing HD viewing for only about 6 months.

After half a year of training, I will be so bold as to venture my first Tier recommendation: I second The Phantom Stranger's fantastic review of "The Big Gundown." 2.25.

I'd also like to add that it is among the most beautiful soundtracks you will ever hear. Morricone went for a whole new direction with this film, compared to the music he created for the Leone films. Morricone's music, combined with the "Hunt in the Cane Fields" sequence in "The Big Gundown," just has to be seen and heard to be believed. Epic.

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Noah has got a 5 star glowing PQ review on Blu-ray.com

On my radar
On my radar now as well, but I'll be waiting until it hits $15 or so.

FYI, a great way to track BD price drops is thetracktor.com. Type in any product, see its lifetime price history on Amazon, set email alerts when it drops below a specified threshold. It's revolutionized my buying.

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Thanks for the heads up on that link to Amazon pricing!!

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All Cheerleaders Die

recommendation: Tier 2.75*

This one from Image does not get released for a couple more weeks. The production quality seems a little rushed with somewhat softer detail for a new film. The day-lit exteriors contain much more impressive clarity and sharpness than the murkier night scenes. It has fairly mundane, average picture quality for 2014. The experience is flat and uninvolving for videophiles.

The transfer by Image has not been filtered and shows no traces of other video processing, including ringing. The cinematography's black levels are indistinct and muddy in the weakest scenes.

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Revenge of the Nerds

recommendation: Tier 3.75*

The 1984 comedy finally saw the light of day on Blu-ray in May of this year, receiving a decent new edition that exhibits modest improvements in picture quality. Fox did not spend a huge amount of money to restore the movie but has given it a relatively new film scan from untarnished elements. The heavy grain structure is perfectly preserved by a maxed-out AVC video encode.

The main problem with Revenge of the Nerds' picture quality is the flat cinematography and dull definition. That was the intended aesthetic and it is kept intact in this 1080p presentation. Fox has avoided filtering out the grain or adding unnecessary sharpening. Fox did their best not to repurpose an older Hi-Def transfer struck for DVD, which does bring out incremental improvements in fine detail and overall clarity. I believe this is likely the best the comedy classic can look on Blu-ray without drastic changes to the color grading that would fundamentally alter its natural color balance.
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Jack The Giant Slayer

'Ooooh that looks clear' said my girlfriend as she glanced up from her tablet PC.

And yeah she's right, JTGS is a very clear looking disc! From beginning to end this was a majestic presentation with lush colours, perfectly balanced contrast and SUPERB black levels and shadow detail. The image quality rarely dipped, if at all really. Not the best CGI but then I'm kinda putting that aside for my review. If you crave depth and detail and enjoy PQ which free of grain, noise and banding, this disc comes highly recommended.

I have to agree with my Peer, Djoberg, that this is a Tier 0 title.

Tier 0.75
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Good review Russ!

Since you knew my rating on this, then you also know I quoted another "peer" of ours who only recommended Tier 2. Can you believe that! Unless enough members weigh in with a Tier 0 recommendation, his score is going to bring it down quite a bit. That is, unless Phantom realizes his score has to be skewed and doesn't count it!!

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Good review Russ!

Since you knew my rating on this, then you also know I quoted another "peer" of ours who only recommended Tier 2. Can you believe that! Unless enough members weigh in with a Tier 0 recommendation, his score is going to bring it down quite a bit. That is, unless Phantom realizes his score has to be skewed and doesn't count it!!

Hi Denny

Glad you liked the review. I was debating tier 0 or tier 1 for the first few chapters but the latter ones got even better which confirmed my final placement. I was suprised to see a tier 2 vote, it's amazing how taste differs vastly. I think the only discs I really didn't enjoy as much as others were Hereafter and American Hustle.

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Blazing Saddles

My first review coming in from my new Vizio M-series. Overall, great facial details, but distance and mid range shots were cloudy. Also, the video was somewhat weird because there were either large white lights or weird reflectors that made people shine the wrong color for the scenery. Slightly too much grain for my liking, but it did look very filmic.

Tier Recommendation: 1.75

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There is nothing quite like breaking in a new display with Tier 0 discs. I think Warner Bros. did give Blazing Saddles a 4K restoration.

The Grand Budapest Hotel

recommendation: Tier 1.5*

Wes Anderson's stylish The Grand Budapest Hotel arrives on Blu-ray with very interesting cinematography utilizing a variety of aspect ratios. The bulk of the film is framed at 1.33:1, capturing the elaborate art and production design quite well. It has one of the more varied and interesting color palettes seen in recent cinematic history, changing with the time period and locale.

A rich contrast produces heavy black levels and fully saturated colors in pristine clarity. The picture has outstanding depth and dimension, despite the occasional digital composite inserted into the background. Fox bestows on it a superb video encode at top-notch parameters, unfiltered and unadorned.

If you have seen any of Anderson's recent films, you should know what to expect from The Grand Budapest Hotel's visuals. Many of the director's signature motifs and tricks can be found once again.
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Will be watching the first Planet of the Apes reboot to get ready for the new one later in theaters!

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Will be watching the first Planet of the Apes reboot to get ready for the new one later in theaters!
I just watched that a week ago (for the third time) with one of my grandchildren who had not seen it. I really enjoyed it and can't wait to see the sequel.

PQ-wise it was very good, but not reference. If you care to see my review here's the link:

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300: Rise of an Empire (2014)

If you're craving to see a Blu with mesmerizing DETAILS, you can't get much better than this! Whether it's facial details, hair, coats of armor, rocky coasts, ships, etc. the details are simply amazing! Add to that some incredible DEPTH, accurate FLESH TONES, superb CONTRAST, beautiful PRIMARY COLORS (though limited, they really shine against a rather muted background), and insane SHARPNESS/CLARITY in the majority of scenes.

That's not to say it's perfect, for the CGI was soft in some shots and it made splattering blood (which is plentiful!) look fake. Some of the background shots in scenes with a panoramic view looked a tad soft as well.

Man, I'm tempted to assign this to low Tier 0 for its spectacular sharpness and details, but the aforementioned flaws forbid me from doing so. Still, this is a shoe-in for Tier 1, and the top of the heap at that...

Tier Recommendation: 1.0*

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300: Rise of an Empire (2014)

If you're craving to see a Blu with mesmerizing DETAILS, you can't get much better than this! Whether it's facial details, hair, coats of armor, rocky coasts, ships, etc. the details are simply amazing! Add to that some incredible DEPTH, accurate FLESH TONES, superb CONTRAST, beautiful PRIMARY COLORS (though limited, they really shine against a rather muted background), and insane SHARPNESS/CLARITY in the majority of scenes.

That's not to say it's perfect, for the CGI was soft in some shots and it made splattering blood (which is plentiful!) look fake. Some of the background shots in scenes with a panoramic view looked a tad soft as well.

Man, I'm tempted to assign this to low Tier 0 for its spectacular sharpness and details, but the aforementioned flaws forbid me from doing so. Still, this is a shoe-in for Tier 1, and the top of the heap at that...

Tier Recommendation: 1.0*

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Great review Denny! This is on my list for sure. I picked up I Frankenstein yesterday, had a quick look and was more impressed than I anticipated......
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Great review Denny! This is on my list for sure. I picked up I Frankenstein yesterday, had a quick look and was more impressed than I anticipated......
I KNOW that you'll be impressed with PQ Russ!

I forgot to mention in my review BLACK LEVELS...they're GORGEOUS!! Regarding the details that I bragged about, wait until you see several scenes with either dust particles floating in the air or fire embers.

I also should have brought out how stylized the colors were (I had mentioned a rather muted look with *some* primaries breaking out); golden hues dominate some scenes but quite frankly I was so preoccupied with the DETAILS and TEXTURE that I hardly noticed.

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I KNOW that you'll be impressed with PQ Russ!

I forgot to mention in my review BLACK LEVELS...they're GORGEOUS!! Regarding the details that I bragged about, wait until you see several scenes with either dust particles floating in the air or fire embers.

I also should have brought out how stylized the colors were (I had mentioned a rather muted look with *some* primaries breaking out); golden hues dominate some scenes but quite frankly I was so preoccupied with the DETAILS and TEXTURE that I hardly noticed.
I saw the screen caps on Blu-ray.com Denny and I could see the PQ potential even from there, plus it also got top marks by the reviewer. I'm pleased to see a review on here as I feel they are more 'the real deal' to me. Thanks for chiming in.
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Terminator 3: Rise of the Machines (1080p, box set)

Somewhat inconsistent with facial detail, CGI has that early 2000s "blurry" look. Most scenes offer good detail levels, though. Good black levels, contrast and color. DNR and EE are not obvious. Overall a pleasing watch, much better than a DVD, but nothing to write home about.

Tier Recommendation 2.25

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Out of interest is anyone on here running a 4K display?
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Somewhat inconsistent with facial detail, CGI has that early 2000s "blurry" look. Most scenes offer good detail levels, though. Good black levels, contrast and color. DNR and EE are not obvious. Overall a pleasing watch, much better than a DVD, but nothing to write home about.

Tier Recommendation 2.25
You also have to be careful with Terminator 3 since Warner first incorrectly issued it with interlaced 1080i resolution. They did issue a corrected version in 1080p video.


Ray Donovan: Season One

recommendation: Tier 1.0*

Released last month by Paramount, this premium cable series has incredible production values on par or better than most theatrical features. The picture quality is extremely sharp and vivid, aiming for a neutral color balance and naturalistic reality. The high-frequency content has been left intact and unfiltered in the pristine video transfer, leaving exacting amounts of fine detail.

The picture has outstanding depth and a palpable dimensionality, rare for a drama. This is the type of full-resolution experience that some might rank in Tier 0, it is that good. There are no major problems with the AVC video encode, four episodes are included per BD-50 in the set.
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Out of interest is anyone on here running a 4K display?
I'm not sure when I will make the jump, especially with the impending death of plasma technology. Panasonic and now Samsung have announced they are leaving plasma behind since 4K technology is poised to take over the market.

Technically we are supposed to list what display and the viewing distance when we are evaluating a BD for a score in the Tiers. My scores are still derived from my 60" Pioneer KURO and a couple of the latest Panasonic plasmas.
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You also have to be careful with Terminator 3 since Warner first incorrectly issued it with interlaced 1080i resolution. They did issue a corrected version in 1080p video.
Amended to indicate edition.

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I'm not sure when I will make the jump, especially with the impending death of plasma technology. Panasonic and now Samsung have announced they are leaving plasma behind since 4K technology is poised to take over the market.

Technically we are supposed to list what display and the viewing distance when we are evaluating a BD for a score in the Tiers. My scores are still derived from my 60" Pioneer KURO and a couple of the latest Panasonic plasmas.
Thanks Phantom. I need to add my viewing setup to my reviews. Note to self.

I've only had my Samsung LED a short while but love it. We are in the process of moving property so with some equity may treat myself to either an Oppo 103d or....something else. I was curious how regular blurays will look on a 4K set (?)
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Ray Donovan: Season One

recommendation: Tier 1.0*

Released last month by Paramount, this premium cable series has incredible production values on par or better than most theatrical features. The picture quality is extremely sharp and vivid, aiming for a neutral color balance and naturalistic reality. The high-frequency content has been left intact and unfiltered in the pristine video transfer, leaving exacting amounts of fine detail.

The picture has outstanding depth and a palpable dimensionality, rare for a drama. This is the type of full-resolution experience that some might rank in Tier 0, it is that good. There are no major problems with the AVC video encode, four episodes are included per BD-50 in the set.
I've been binging on House of Cards today and your description of Ray Donavan mirrors what I see with every episode of HOC. I had only rated the first few episodes when I chimed in a few weeks ago with a Tier 0 (.66) rating. After seeing many more episodes I'd give it a .5 placement....it's that good!

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House of Cards

Okay, after watching the whole first series (13 episodes) of House of Cards I've decided to stick with my original placement recommendation of Tier 0 (.66). For whatever reason, the last couple of episodes had some very obvious soft scenes sprinkled throughout their 49 minute running time. One example of this took place in a garage with Underwood and Russo sitting in a car. It was a prolonged scene which was incredibly soft and the blacks were below average on top of that. The other soft scenes were normally interior shots with low lighting. If not for these, I would easily elevate this to .5, as mentioned yesterday (after watching episodes 1-10).

If you've never seen this political drama I highly recommend it. The acting is superb and the writing achieves what very few cable shows even come close to. This and The Americans are both in a class of their own, though I confess time did not allow me to watch other highly recommended series like Breaking Bad, Justified, Game of Thrones, et al. I've also enjoyed watching Fargo, The Walking Dead, The Bates Motel, and Hell on Wheels. All of them, with the exception of The Walking Dead, also feature excellent PQ.

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Countess Dracula

recommendation: Tier 4.5*

The 1970 Hammer film starring Ingrid Pitt was released onto Blu-ray a couple of months ago by Synapse. Countess Dracula's transfer appears to be an older telecine master, possibly the same one MGM struck for the older DVD release. It is definitely a legitimate high-definition film transfer but one that provides marginal visual improvement over a high-quality DVD. It is great to see these older horror properties finally licensed for Blu-ray but I am beginning to dread the MGM logo at the beginning of a film. Most of their older catalog transfers from the DVD era aren't up to snuff for the picture quality demands needed in 2014.

The video itself is watchable but there is persistent softness in the film's cinematography. Its mushy detail is more indicative of an older film scan from unrestored elements than filtering. There are occasional white specks and the rare appearance of film damage in the print. This is not from pristine film elements, though the film is presented in its intended 1.66:1 aspect ratio common to British films of the period.
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