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wildfire99's Avatar wildfire99 01:29 AM 08-01-2007
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

Once again, considering most BDs that are 2 disc list for $34.99 to $39.99, are we SURE that all 5 discs will be HD discs and that all the versions and docs are in HD....?!?!?!? How can they make ANY $ on this...?!?!?

Because it doesn't really cost that much to press an HD disc, and we're just being gouged because the studios feel like it?

Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 01:57 AM 08-01-2007
possible...
but they must know they could charge alot more than this for 5 HD discs!
The WB title "The Departed" lists for $34.95, the HDdvd combo for $39.95 and that's for ONE disc...!

Something is awry. Either the price IS totally wrong and will be more like $59.99 list or I'll bet that most of these discs will be SD, like in The Matrix ultimate collection where all the extras were SD.
SC0TLANDF0REVER's Avatar SC0TLANDF0REVER 03:08 AM 08-01-2007
This will officially be my first pre-order from Amazon (BD UCE).
patrick99's Avatar patrick99 04:14 AM 08-01-2007
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Five BR discs for 27.95! This should render the whole "why isn't WB issuing a one-disc version" debate a dead issue.

Yes, it should.
swanlee's Avatar swanlee 04:32 AM 08-01-2007
Is there any confirmation that every version of Blade Runner in the 5 disc set will be in HD?
DigitalfreakNYC's Avatar DigitalfreakNYC 06:55 AM 08-01-2007
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Is there any confirmation that every version of Blade Runner in the 5 disc set will be in HD?

There's absolutely no reason to think they wouldn't be.
patrick99's Avatar patrick99 07:00 AM 08-01-2007
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There's absolutely no reason to think they wouldn't be.

Except the price.
Greg Kettell's Avatar Greg Kettell 08:11 AM 08-01-2007
Even if it was just the Final Cut it'd be worth that price.

If the movies on Disc 3 are HD they must use seamless branching. The HD DVD has the same content. Come to think of it, so does the DVD version. Perhaps they ARE all in SD. Hmm, that would really suck.
DigitalfreakNYC's Avatar DigitalfreakNYC 08:21 AM 08-01-2007
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Except the price.

Because we've had a set like this come out before?

Nope.
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 10:38 AM 08-01-2007
I haven't seen ANYTHING that says all the versions will be in HD.
Honestly, how can they charge so little...? Shoot, how much was "The Matrix" set again...?

List was $99.99 for only 3 HDdvd discs and that's also WB.

The Complete Matrix Trilogy [HD DVD]
Starring: Keanu Reeves, Carrie-Anne Moss Director: Andy Wachowski Rating R


List Price: $99.99
Price: $63.95 & this item ships for FREE with Super Saver Shipping. Details
You Save: $36.04 (36%)

Availability: In Stock. Ships from and sold by Amazon.com. Gift-wrap available.

That's why I think it's either a pricing mistake or only one, maybe 2 discs will be HD
DigitalfreakNYC's Avatar DigitalfreakNYC 11:32 AM 08-01-2007
That was 3 different movies. This is 1.

There is absolutely no reason to think that most of the discs WON'T be in HD.

The documentary is new so that should be in HD. The Final cut has been remastered so that will be in HD. The DC was just remastered so that will be in HD as well and will be probably be used as the "master" for all 3 of the versions on that disc: theatrical, international and DC. The workprint MIGHT not be HD but we'll have to wait and see.
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 11:40 AM 08-01-2007
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There is absolutely no reason to think that most of the discs will be in HD.


Hey, you said it...


swanlee's Avatar swanlee 11:43 AM 08-01-2007
Anyone know who we can contact to find out? I would be bummed if only the final cut was in HD, I enjoy each version of the movie and would prefer them all to be in HD, the price though makes me think it is 1 HD disc and 4 SD-DVD's of bonus material.

If it is all in HD this set is not only the most extravagant box set but the best priced box set for what you get. If it's all in HD WB should get some major props, if not then I'm a tad bummed but still going to enjoy this set.
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 11:46 AM 08-01-2007
agreed, swanlee.
If this price DOES stick and it all IS in HD, WB is amazing.


DigitalfreakNYC's Avatar DigitalfreakNYC 11:58 AM 08-01-2007
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Hey, you said it...


That's why I shouldn't be on AVS at work.
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 12:14 PM 08-01-2007
true...!


RockStrongo's Avatar RockStrongo 12:34 PM 08-01-2007
I think its possible that some versions of the movie aren't HD, but my bet would be that they are.

The only reason Animatrix wasn't hd in the matrix trilogy was because they couldnt find a hd master of it.

BUT, the price is definately scary.
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 02:00 PM 08-01-2007
scary good, though!


MrGonk's Avatar MrGonk 04:06 PM 08-01-2007
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I think its possible that some versions of the movie aren't HD, but my bet would be that they are.

The only reason Animatrix wasn't hd in the matrix trilogy was because they couldnt find a hd master of it.

BUT, the price is definately scary.

on the subject of the different cuts being in hd, let me submit this evidence:

warner re-released 1992 director's cut dvd last september. the only change? the video was from a new high-definition transfer.

so there's a high-def master of the director's cut. it stands to reason that, having an hd master, they would include the director's cut in high def.

the director's cut seamlessly branches with the international and domestic cuts (there's literally something like 90 seconds of difference in something like a half dozen total scenes). thus, if the director's cut is high def, it stands to reason that the other cuts would also be high-def as well.

as for the workprint, that's more of a question mark. however, there was no known film-to-video transfer of the workprint cut in existence before this set was created, and they did all of the new transfers for this set in high def. so it stands to reason that the workprint will also be in high def (hey, it would probably require even more work to include only a standard-def version of the workprint, right?) but don't expect its picture quality to be great regardless -- it's an old assembly and the print may not be in stellar condition. it's not included as one of the canonical cuts of the film, it's included as a special feature.
Supermans's Avatar Supermans 04:09 PM 08-01-2007
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Originally Posted by MrGonk View Post

on the subject of the different cuts being in hd, let me submit this evidence:

warner re-released 1992 director's cut dvd last september. the only change? the video was from a new high-definition transfer.

so there's a high-def master of the director's cut. it stands to reason that, having an hd master, they would include the director's cut in high def.

the director's cut seamlessly branches with the international and domestic cuts (there's literally something like 90 seconds of difference in something like a half dozen total scenes). thus, if the director's cut is high def, it stands to reason that the other cuts would also be high-def as well.

as for the workprint, that's more of a question mark. however, there was no known film-to-video transfer of the workprint cut in existence before this set was created, and they did all of the new transfers for this set in high def. so it stands to reason that the workprint will also be in high def (hey, it would probably require even more work to include only a standard-def version of the workprint, right?) but don't expect its picture quality to be great regardless -- it's an old assembly and the print may not be in stellar condition. it's not included as one of the canonical cuts of the film, it's included as a special feature.


This rocks ...I hope you are 100% correct on this one. For $27 all 5 Blu-Ray's in HD Can't beat that...
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 04:37 PM 08-01-2007
We don't yet know if ALL of the versions will be in HD.
I'd say it is safe to say that at least 2 discs will definitely be HD.
Also, the $39.95 list is awful low...
RockStrongo's Avatar RockStrongo 07:18 PM 08-01-2007
According to the digital bits...

"Chief among these, is will all of the versions of the film and all of the special features on the HD versions of Blade Runner be in actual 1080, or will they be like Warner's Matrix releases... films only in HD and extras in SD. Now, I've been told that at the very least all of the different versions of the film itself will be in 1080. And I know that all of the video extras - the documentary, etc - are being mastered in 1080. The question is whether or not the disc capacities of HD-DVD and Blu-ray Disc will allow for everything to be included in 1080"
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 07:43 PM 08-01-2007
Thanks, Rock.
So at this point I think they really should put it all out in HD, unless they try to save some $.
I would think we're good. Now it REALLY makes me wonder if that price will stick...


k1davis's Avatar k1davis 08:11 PM 08-01-2007
I can't believe the price either. I guess it is a valid point that there is *technically* only 1 movie in the set, but still.....

I always thought that every version of the film would be in HD and I'm really excited that "Dangerous Days" the (3 hour?) documentary is also "being mastered in 1080".

Amazon has even updated the listing and added a pix of the briefcase to the Ultimate Collectors Edition. The price remains the same. It's looking more & more like it's not a mistake, but even if it is Amazon should deliver what they promised.
MrGonk's Avatar MrGonk 08:40 PM 08-01-2007
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I can't believe the price either. I guess it is a valid point that there is *technically* only 1 movie in the set, but still.....

I always thought that every version of the film would be in HD and I'm really excited that "Dangerous Days" the (3 hour?) documentary is also "being mastered in 1080".

Amazon has even updated the listing and added a pix of the briefcase to the Ultimate Collectors Edition. The price remains the same. It's looking more & more like it's not a mistake, but even if it is Amazon should deliver what they promised.

hey... three and a HALF hours. haha.

this set honestly is just too good to be true. i am the hardest of hardcore blade runner fans. i own two copies of the criterion CAV laserdisc, the REALLY obscure original full-frame domestic cut laserdisc (the only home video release of the domestic cut ever), the remastered 10th anniversary edition VHS international cut tape, the SVHS international cut tape (great pq, btw), both single-disc DVD releases, and a... uh... collector's set i bought on e-bay that had some um... poorly mastered exclusive materials. you know, probably from an eastern distributor or something, i don't know. ahem....

oh, and of course "future noir: the making of blade runner"

the point is, i'm probably insane and i'm as big a fan of this movie as there is. and i honestly can't think of anything they should have included in this release that they didn't, including things i didn't think were possible -- like nearly an hour of deleted scenes (which have never even so much as been presumed to exist!), or an exhaustive documentary about the movie that's twice as long as the movie, or literally every cut ever produced in top-notch quality... or a commentary track by paul m. sammon... the true blade runner scholar. i mean, this is absolute genius!

honestly, it's really just too damned good to be true. it's better than any of us could have asked for.

i just know that jerry perenchio is going to sweep in at the last minute and file an injunction preventing them from releasing it.
k1davis's Avatar k1davis 08:50 PM 08-01-2007
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honestly, it's really just too damned good to be true. it's better than any of us could have asked for.

i just know that jerry perenchio is going to sweep in at the last minute and file an injunction preventing them from releasing it.

"Shut cho mouf!!" (Shaft)

I could not agree more... except for that last part. Jerry would be soliciting a world of pain. (kidding... sorta)
rdodolak's Avatar rdodolak 09:23 PM 08-01-2007
How is this a pricing error? Amazon isn't the only online site listing this for preorder at similiar price including Warner Bros.

Warner Bros. DVD Shop - Blade Runner

Blade Runner: 5-Disc Ultimate Collector's Edition
DVD - $59.95
HD DVD - $79.95
Blu-ray - $ 79.95

Blade Runner: Complete Collector's Edition
HD DVD - $29.95
Blu-ray - $29.95
Dave Mack's Avatar Dave Mack 09:32 PM 08-01-2007
It could be a pricing error from WB...

The press release issued just a few days ago from WB had price as TBD....


BLADE RUNNER: COMPLETE COLLECTOR'S EDITION HD (5-DISC)
$TBD
HD Catalog #118573
Packaging: Digi-Pak with Collectible Slipcase

BLADE RUNNER: COMPLETE COLLECTOR'S EDITION BD (5-DISC)
$TBD
BD Catalog #118574
Packaging: Digi-Pak with Collectible Slipcase

BLADE RUNNER: ULTIMATE COLLECTOR'S EDITION HD-DVD (5-DISC)
Limited Numbered Edition in "Deckard Briefcase" w/Collectible Memorabilia
$TBD
HD Catalog #118571

BLADE RUNNER: ULTIMATE COLLECTOR'S EDITION BLU-RAY DISC (5-DISC)
Limited Numbered Edition in "Deckard Briefcase" w/Collectible Memorabilia
$TBD
BD Catalog #118572
rdodolak's Avatar rdodolak 09:45 PM 08-01-2007
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Originally Posted by Dave Mack View Post

It could be a pricing error from WB...

The press release issued just a few days ago from WB had price as TBD....


BLADE RUNNER: COMPLETE COLLECTOR'S EDITION HD (5-DISC)
$TBD
HD Catalog #118573
Packaging: Digi-Pak with Collectible Slipcase

BLADE RUNNER: COMPLETE COLLECTOR'S EDITION BD (5-DISC)
$TBD
BD Catalog #118574
Packaging: Digi-Pak with Collectible Slipcase

BLADE RUNNER: ULTIMATE COLLECTOR'S EDITION HD-DVD (5-DISC)
Limited Numbered Edition in "Deckard Briefcase" w/Collectible Memorabilia
$TBD
HD Catalog #118571

BLADE RUNNER: ULTIMATE COLLECTOR'S EDITION BLU-RAY DISC (5-DISC)
Limited Numbered Edition in "Deckard Briefcase" w/Collectible Memorabilia
$TBD
BD Catalog #118572

Sure a possibilty always exists, but that press release was released 7 days ago. The current prices being posted online started to show up after that press release was released.

Again I see a lot of discussion about Amazon, but they aren't the only one releasing similar info. At a minimum I'd guess the info came from Warner in some shape or form. That doesn't mean it couldn't change, but with Warner showing similar info online it would appear that the odds that the pricing is correct has increased.
oink's Avatar oink 10:22 PM 08-01-2007
Either A....this is a pricing error,
or B....the specs for this release is in error,
or C....Warner just dug its way out of a hole with BD consumers.
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