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post #181 of 199 Old 02-04-2013, 04:29 PM
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It's the Director's Cut only, on a BD-50. File size of around 43gb, compared to the US disc's near 24gb for the Director's Cut.
The other cuts are redundant IMO and eating valuable disc space.

http://www.cinemasquid.com/blu-ray/movies/releases/jet-lis-fearless/c2cb308f-c297-445d-bdf5-d19872504fea#specs

Wow. Any place have any screenshot comparisons between the HK and US releases? I like my US dic but if the HK looks better I would gladly upgrade.
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I can't find any comparison, unfortunately.

There is however, this:
http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Fearless-Blu-ray/49115/
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Notorious distributor Zoke Culture has come through this time with an HD CAM Remastered DVD. The film has a troubled history, and as a friend put it:

For House of Flying Daggers, they went from film (first generation) into the computer (second generation @ 2k resolution loss), back to film (third generation) and then, back into the computer (fourth generation) for final digital master for DVD, etc."

Hence all the contrast/sharpness problems which you can see even more pronounced on other releases at this page.


It also seems, on the screen shots that are of the exact same frame, that the Zoke Culture release has more image information on all sides (in particular shot 3 of the crowd on the balcony).

Not a perfect transfer, but I'd venture to say it's the one closest to Yimou's intent. Don't make the same mistakes on "Man cheng jin dai huang jin jia"!

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If it is indeed the D1 & it lOOks like that is super messed up; why all the variation w/the DVD releases?
Some lOOkED OK, some pretty poor!
If the US Blu wasn't zoomed in, it very well may have lOOkED better.

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If it is indeed the D1 & it lOOks like that is super messed up; why all the variation w/the DVD releases?
Some lOOkED OK, some pretty poor!

I have many DVD editions of this movie. Some had artificial sharpening or color and contrast boosting done after-the-fact, but they all look some variation on poor.

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Some had artificial sharpening or color and contrast boosting done after-the-fact, but they all look some variation on poor.
Sad, but true.
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Received the HK disc today.

My word, taking into account the flaws that we're all aware of,surrounding the source material, this looks fantastic.

I compared it to the cut UK release and the bump in PQ, was most appreciable.

Fearless also looks excellent, although the differences from the US disc might not be immediately apparent.

However, detail and grain are handled far better and the haloing in the US disc, is largely absent.

Cash well spent.
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Received the HK disc today.

My word, taking into account the flaws that we're all aware of,surrounding the source material, this looks fantastic.

I compared it to the cut UK release and the bump in PQ, was most appreciable.
Could you provide more details?
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Received the HK disc today.

My word, taking into account the flaws that we're all aware of,surrounding the source material, this looks fantastic.

I compared it to the cut UK release and the bump in PQ, was most appreciable.

Fearless also looks excellent, although the differences from the US disc might not be immediately apparent.

However, detail and grain are handled far better and the haloing in the US disc, is largely absent.

Cash well spent.
How's the framing?
An EZ scene too compare is the "bean dance":
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews31/house_of_flying_daggers_blu-ray.htm
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Could you provide more details?
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How's the framing?
An EZ scene too compare is the "bean dance":
http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDReviews31/house_of_flying_daggers_blu-ray.htm
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BIG thanks.
The framing matches the US BD, in that shot.
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Such as?
You mentioned "taking into account the flaws that we're all aware of,surrounding the source material, this looks fantastic."
"Fantastic" in what way (as compared to the original U.S. BD)?
The original U.S. release was heavily criticized, and for good reason.
Can you compare/contrast the PQ of the 2 releases?
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The framing matches the US BD, in that shot.
Bummer!
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This source is sooooo messED up!!! And then they zoom in on it!!!
Brilliant!!!

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You mentioned "taking into account the flaws that we're all aware of,surrounding the source material, this looks fantastic."
"Fantastic" in what way (as compared to the original U.S. BD)?
The original U.S. release was heavily criticized, and for good reason.
Can you compare/contrast the PQ of the 2 releases?
I've never owned the US disc, what with it being censored and therefore not worth the effort.

I compared it to the UK release, (again,censored, but not to the degree of the US disc), which looks dire.

If the US disc looks worse than the UK, I don't know what to say.

I'm not going to blow smoke up anyone's butt, by claiming the transfer is revelatory, no way in hell, it still as issues, but coming from owning the original Edko DVD, the re-mastered Edko DVD, the UK DVD and then UK BD, this is the best I've seen it look on a home format.

If I thought it looked like ass, I'd be moving it on, but I'm happy to toss the UK disc in the bin and replace it.
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I've never owned the US disc, what with it being censored and therefore not worth the effort.

I compared it to the UK release, (again,censored, but not to the degree of the US disc), which looks dire.

If the US disc looks worse than the UK, I don't know what to say.

I'm not going to blow smoke up anyone's butt, by claiming the transfer is revelatory, no way in hell, it still as issues, but coming from owning the original Edko DVD, the re-mastered Edko DVD, the UK DVD and then UK BD, this is the best I've seen it look on a home format.

If I thought it looked like ass, I'd be moving it on, but I'm happy to toss the UK disc in the bin and replace it.
OK, thanx for the info.smile.gif
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Thsi thread is oldbut I wonder when
House of Flying Daggers will be available in UHD 4K?
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Thsi thread is oldbut I wonder when
House of Flying Daggers will be available in UHD 4K?
I covered this in another thread. The film is locked in at 2K and it's too old to bring into 4K. It's just not going to happen unless they go back to the OCN, re-do all the VFX at 4K, and put together a new 4K master. The likelihood of that happening is non-existent.
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I covered this in another thread. The film is locked in at 2K and it's too old to bring into 4K. It's just not going to happen unless they go back to the OCN, re-do all the VFX at 4K, and put together a new 4K master. The likelihood of that happening is non-existent.
You mean just like all the other 2K upconverts they are selling?

Sony is even trying to sell a UHD Blu-ray using a DI from 2003, even older than HoFD: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Underw...166444/#Review
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You mean just like all the other 2K upconverts they are selling?

Sony is even trying to sell a UHD Blu-ray using a DI from 2003, even older than HoFD: http://www.blu-ray.com/movies/Underw...166444/#Review

We're talking about a re-master. Also, Sony does not own HoFD. Edko Films does. Sony cannot just release it on UHD-BD without a new 4K master from them.
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I've been looking to replace this from my DVD but was disheartened by the USA BD release. I'll probably get the HK version that's been talked about on here for a while. However, there's a Taiwan version as well: http://www.yesasia.com/us/house-of-f...0-en/info.html

Anyone have any experience with that one?

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I've been looking to replace this from my DVD but was disheartened by the USA BD release. I'll probably get the HK version that's been talked about on here for a while. However, there's a Taiwan version as well: http://www.yesasia.com/us/house-of-f...0-en/info.html

Anyone have any experience with that one?
Interesting. (Taiwan) DTS-HD Master Audio 5.1 versus (Hong Kong) Dolby TrueHD 5.1.

(Taiwan) Video codec (AVC Mpeg-4 Part 10) versus (Hong Kong) MPEG-1

(Taiwan) 119 minutes versus (Hong Kong) 120 minutes. Is this running time right and not a typo?

http://www.yesasia.com/us/house-of-f...0-en/info.html
http://www.yesasia.com/us/house-of-f...0-en/info.html

The Taiwan version is listed as out of stock.

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