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post #781 of 809 Old 08-09-2015, 08:35 PM
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Unfortunately we might not get the version we want until an HDR version eventually comes out. It likely needs the extra dynamic range for the gradients in the dark areas...
Nah. The theatrical and DVD release did this fine.


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How on Earth did we get along watching movies before HDR?
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This Bram Stoker's Dracula BD is also getting a remixed Dolby Atmos soundtrack. That should prove interesting to hear.

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review dropped today over at digitalbits; sounds promising to say the least!

http://www.digitalbits.com/item/bram...reme-cinema-bd


Whereas the previous Blu-ray had a murky quality to its deepest shadows, there’s more detail visible in them now, and the range of contrast is larger. Color tones are also less muddy – still rich, but also far more natural looking. While the video grade for the original Blu-ray would be a charitable C, this new edition deserves a good strong A-.

Do other films of similar vintage look better than this on Blu-ray? Yes. But given this film’s unique challenges, it’s hard to imagine it looking better in 1080p than it does here. You’d have to watch in actual 4K with High Dynamic Range to get a better experience. As it stands, this Blu-ray video quality improvement is dramatic, and you appreciate it more and more the longer you watch.

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The packaging looks ridiculously suspect for the limited edition.
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It looks like someone (Kim Aubry, Robert Harris) owes someone else (Xylon, Dave Mack, all those of us who complained about the 2007 BD) a pretty big apology: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...la_blu-ray.htm
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It does appear the new 4K color timing is much, much closer to what was seen on DVD than the original Blu-ray. Some of the screenshots show far better contrast and properly bring out the color seen in various period dresses.

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It looks like someone (Kim Aubry, Robert Harris) owes someone else (Xylon, Dave Mack, all those of us who complained about the 2007 BD) a pretty big apology: http://www.dvdbeaver.com/film2/DVDRe...la_blu-ray.htm
The SuperBit DVD can finally be retired as the best looking release!
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Some people are saying the framing is wrong now on the new disc (see the Blu-ray site).


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While it would have been nice to get this 4K transfer perfect, I can live with the framing if the color-timing is much better.

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I feel the same. I saw some of the screencap comparisons and the framing difference is so slight I don't think there is anyway I would have noticed. I think in motion this disc is going to look really nice.


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I notice that framing difference when I was looking at the screenshots but it's so slight that it's not really a big deal IMO. I like the bump in detail, it makes the original blu-ray looks out of focus.

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The complainers won. I like the color correction of the 2007 disc. Its main fault was how digital the whole thing looked.
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Initially in 2007, I was fine with the original disc. However, over time, the flaws started to sink in more for me. This new disc based on the caps looks very film-like and the shadow details look much better. I like the color better too.


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A bit brighter and more legible
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Some people are saying the framing is wrong now on the new disc (see the Blu-ray site).
The new framing looks better in every comparison I've seen. Less empty wasted headroom. It's probably more "correct" now.
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It's almost like the old BD was terrible...
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5 months, 16 thread pages, and 23,000 views later and still no word from Sony regarding a remaster for Dracula.

Yeah, this Dracula thread is really pressuring Sony. They can't take much more. They're about to cave in any moment now and remaster it for the die hard fans.

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Ok, so I had a look at the new BD yesterday thanks to a friend with terrible taste (yep, I still think the movie is beautiful but borderline terrible), and it is... weird. Like, this scene:
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... has been fixed, right? But then the very next shot, which had visible writing on the DVD, looks almost exactly like the old BD:


And in this scene the set is still obscured by darkness:


This one is not quite as green as it was on the old BD, but still...:


Pretty much like the old BD:


Slightly better, I guess:


Eh, I don't know:


The colours are very similar to the old BD:


But at least they fixed those weird splotchy blacks:


This shot has some of the old colour back (it was practically shades of grey on the old BD) and no longer has crushed blacks:



So, you know, very weird.
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I was fairly unimpressed by this release. My copy looks the best it ever has, but it still leaves me somewhat severely underwhelmed to be sure.

Spartacus on the other hand (sony cinema series) looks, AND SOUNDS, magnificent!

to be fair, BSD sounds really really good also.

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I watched the new disc the other night and was impressed...it's definitely an improvement over the original disc in every way. Very film-like. Framing a non-issue. The disc holds up extremely well projected. The audio was good too in 7.1, but I don't have the original disc any longer to compare it to.


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It's almost like the old BD was terrible...
Based from that screen shot comparing the two, the Blu-ray does look terrible. The whites are blown out and so is the fire flame. Also, the black level on the Blu-ray is so dark, the writing almost totally blends into the background, on the 4K version, the letters can be seen because it's below the rest of the blacks. Mainly, the Blu-ray looks to have a little too much contrast when compared to the 4K version. The 4K version also looks to be slightly less blue in the darker regions.

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I'm holding off on The Fifth Element remaster-remaster in case it's a 4K disaster. I think Dracula is old enough and was shot in such a way that you'd have to go back to the camera negative and lovingly go to town on it ala Spartacus to get it into a suitable product for today's viewers.
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I'm holding off on The Fifth Element remaster-remaster in case it's a 4K disaster. I think Dracula is old enough and was shot in such a way that you'd have to go back to the camera negative and lovingly go to town on it ala Spartacus to get it into a suitable product for today's viewers.
BSD was filmed with an intentional soft focus. It will never look as sharp as we would prefer regardless of the advances in technology.
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Hmmm...

I was trying to skip this (and TFE and The Professional) but the screen caps have me convinced I need to thow out my old BD and get this new one.

The only thing I need to figure out is what to do with the old slipcover from the orignal release as it's somewhat rare now.... still... I guess it's easily recycled.
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I like the original DVD
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I watched the new disc the other night and was impressed...it's definitely an improvement over the original disc in every way. Very film-like. Framing a non-issue. The disc holds up extremely well projected. The audio was good too in 7.1, but I don't have the original disc any longer to compare it to.
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