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post #31 of 187 Old 10-28-2007, 04:08 AM - Thread Starter
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what's up with those huge ugly ratings graphic ruining the cover art like that? is that standard in australia? is it a removable sticker? christ, i purposely buy american edition DVDs (back when i bought DVDs) just so i didn't have to look at the ugly french the canadian gov't made the studios put on the cover along side the english.

Not a sticker. Its printed on the package.
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Update:

DVD versions of SM3 are up.
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As others have stated thanks a ton for the caps Xylon! I always look forward to seeing them.

I can now also save my money. I have been reading how Spidey 1 looked disappointing but shrugged it off until I could see for myself. I'm kinda surprised at the lack of improvement on that.
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dvdfile.com did a review of the trilogy on blu-ray and said:

"My biggest and most pleasing surprise was to discover that the first film had, in my opinion, the best image quality of the three; it was utterly film-like with lots of image depth. The color saturation and clean, artifact-free images of all three films are mesmerizing. But for me, the picture presentation of the first film was a cut above. I found this intriguing not only because the first film is my favorite of the series, but also because the first film always had a murky, muddy appearance on standard-definition DVD (the second film's DVD presentation looks better)."

Man, David Boulet must of been drunk/high when he reviewed it. The screencaps clearly show that Spidey 1 isn't improved by that much.
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Man, David Boulet must of been drunk/high when he reviewed it. The screencaps clearly show that Spidey 1 isn't improved by that much.


Why is it so hard to find a reliable review site for Blu-ray?!

I wish xylon had a review site complete with screen caps and comparisons.
It would be the most popular of all!!!!
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Best Buy is carrying the trilogy on Blu-ray this week for $60... yes, that's right. Best Buy is actually carrying a Blu-ray title for less than Amazon. I know it won't be but I can only hope that this is the start of a trend.
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Fast motion on SM2 and SM3 - siginificant PQ difference. On SM1 however this is infocus low movement, close up - barely extra amount of detail to be seen.
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Holy shnikees! The pic quality of SM2 and 3 look AMAZING! That's how they SHOULD look!!!!

But what is up with SM1? That is terrible. Its like the 5th Element all over again........

In terms of LFE, size does matter!
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Xylon, you should look for these shots from SM1: any of the wideshots inside the wrestling arena. The closeup of Bruce Campbell before the match. First big shot of Globla Unity Festival. All of those shots show tons of detail that the dvd can't touch.
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Can somebody do the mouse-overs? I think that is what it's call. Those things are sweet.
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Can somebody do the mouse-overs? I think that is what it's call. Those things are sweet.

Hi.

I added the DVD vs. BD-shots to the mouseovers ...
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The first comparison impressions between SM1 on DVD vs BD is expected to be minimal. After several replays my eyes are convinced that the BD version has better sharpness and detailing besides the shadow detailing which is poor in night scenes. Do not compare SM1 with Fifth Element (First release). There is still some scope for improvement especially in the dark scenes. The same applies to Air Force One as most parts of the movie that takes place inside the airplane appears soft and hazy.

I think it's quite tricker to etch a decent comparison on movies that are filmed in 1.85:1 AR.

Blu-ray : 340
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Hi.

I added the DVD vs. BD-shots to the mouseovers ...

wow, that is a sweet site! thanks!

ps: might want to add a Dracula section too!
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The jump in detail over the dvd versions of SM2 and 3 are staggering, SM2 in particular. The dvd looks like a bootleg in comparison.
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Is it true that Spider-man 1 and Spider-man 2 are single layer discs? I thought all three flicks were gonna be on BD50.

Fight mediocrity: Insist on BD50 discs for all movies longer than 100 minutes, optimized video encodes that fully utilize the available space, lossless audio track, and new masters for catalog titles!
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Looking at the rollover page, the BD of Spidey 1 shows a clear improvement.
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Is it true that Spider-man 1 and Spider-man 2 are single layer discs? I thought all three flicks were gonna be on BD50.

They are all BD-50s.
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Hi.

I added the DVD vs. BD-shots to the mouseovers ...

Thanks. Good Job!
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Hi.

I added the DVD vs. BD-shots to the mouseovers ...

Thanks, the difference between Spiderman 2 DVD vs. Blu-ray is mind blowing
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I don't know what you guys are talking about regarding Spider-Man 1.

There's a huge stepup in quality with the Blu-ray on the first page of the thread. Is the pic on the left DVD or HD broadcast?

The pic on the left looks out of focus by comparison. The Blu-ray is leaps and bounds better in detail!

You folks realize 2 and 3 were shot scope and 1 was shot 1.85:1 flat right? Less film = less detail. The first film will never look as detailed as the sequels. The presentation looks great from what I can tell.

EDIT: It also occurs to me since no one is particulary attractive in the film, Raimi might not have gone for as sharp a focus as possible, or lit for that.

The 1.85:1 AR probably made sense at the time they made SM because with Spidey and webslinging and wall-crawling you'd expect a lot of vertical action in the frame, but they probably switched to scope for better resolution (and HD picture quality), especially considering most of the time (unfortunately) the camera moves with him anyway, so you can't appreciate movement within the frame all that often.

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Are you scrolling to the right to see the BD screens? While the first one isn't a huge difference it is clearly better. Look at the pores on Peter's face and MJs teeth and you'll see a lot more detail. The SM2 screens are night and day different. For some reason I can't see the SM3 BD screen. Perhaps xylon could put a carraige return in between his shots or something?

yeah i agree, if you cant see the difference in quality between blu ray and the dvd you have to be blind, its totally night and day.
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wow the mouse-over for sm1 shows night and day difference between the two releases. also keep in mind sm1 is in superbit and not a low bitrate encode loaded with extras.
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Xylon, you should look for these shots from SM1: any of the wideshots inside the wrestling arena. The closeup of Bruce Campbell before the match. First big shot of Globla Unity Festival. All of those shots show tons of detail that the dvd can't touch.

I'm workin on that. SM1 PQ should improve on these kind of scenes.
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Check out the major mosquito noise surrounding Spidey and everything else in the last SM3 DVD cap. Horrific.

Just one reason why I find DVDs so hard to watch these days.
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The 1.85:1 AR probably made sense at the time they made SM because with Spidey and webslinging and wall-crawling you'd expect a lot of vertical action in the frame, but they probably switched to scope for better resolution (and HD picture quality), especially considering most of the time (unfortunately) the camera moves with him anyway, so you can't appreciate movement within the frame all that often.

I believe the aspect ratio change really just came about due to Raimi having more clout when making the sequels.
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Thanks for the screens Xylon!

S1 on BD is sharper but the color depth looks to be the exact same as the DVD...which is a let down.

S2 on BD is a huge improvement over DVD.

I'm still only going to pickup S3 on BD and will wait for the re-release special editions for 1 & 2.

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