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post #151 of 8911 Old 01-11-2008, 04:43 PM
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Here is my netflix queue. It was a lot worse about 3 weeks ago when I had 25 or so BDs in my queue. For about 2 weeks straight before that point I hadn't gotten ONE BD. And let me tell you it sucks to drool over what BDs you might be getting that week and end up stuck with DVDs

You'll notice titles like Mr Brooks and Superbad have been out for nearly a month already and other titles like Oldboy and 28 Weeks Later have probably been out longer than that. What really sucks is that one day a week ago I noticed that netflix had received my return that morning, and Oldboy was available "now" for the first time. I was sure I'd get it, but instead got some DVD instead.

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I just sent Sunshine back on Thursday maybe that will help. I've been sitting on Mr Brooks for a week or so. I'll try to watch it this weekend and send it back.

IMO Sunshine is not worth the wait.

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Everyone that uses Netflix and is unhappy with the long wait status for BD titles should GO TO THIS PAGE:

http://www.netflix.com/Suggest?type=0

and complete the form informing them that their availability for BD discs are pathetic and they need to purchase more titles to statisfy user demand.

Hehe nice job Jazar I was gonna post this when I got home Sure, there are peeps here that say "they don't care" but if enough do it they will
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I was thinking about re-joining Netflix this week but after reading this thread, I think I'll hold off considering that the reason I canceled in the first place was because of the poor availability of BD/HD DVDs..

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Everyone that uses Netflix and is unhappy with the long wait status for BD titles should GO TO THIS PAGE:

http://www.netflix.com/Suggest?type=0

and complete the form informing them that their availability for BD discs are pathetic and they need to purchase more titles to statisfy user demand.

I've done that twice already.

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Yes, I do. Even with heavily subsidized rental agreements with the studios I would think they are at least more expensive. And even if they are the same price or slightly less it doesn't matter because they wont touch the vume the same DVD will, not ven in the same leauge, let alone ballpark...

Its not a conspiracy is all Im saying. its not economically viable, plain and simple.

I completely disagree. It is easily economically viable. They're not replicating these discs, they just have to buy more to fill demand. There's obviously demand for these if they're all "very long wait" times, and they don't have to buy in nearly the volume that they do for their older DVD sibling.

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I just sent Sunshine back on Thursday maybe that will help. I've been sitting on Mr Brooks for a week or so. I'll try to watch it this weekend and send it back.

IMO Sunshine is not worth the wait.

Thanks for reminding me that I had Mr Brooks in my queue. It's been in there so long I forgot that I bought it cause of the amazon.com BOGO last week. I forgot to take it out.

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I was thinking about re-joining Netflix this week but after reading this thread, I think I'll hold off considering that the reason I canceled in the first place was because of the poor availability of BD/HD DVDs..

Thanks. That's one less person we have to compete with for Blu titles.

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Just adding my 2 cents here too - could post in lenght but you've all said it over and over. We need more competition to drive improvements. I'm sure Netflix doesn't see Blockbuster as a threat anymore and I'm sure it won't be long until new movie delivery methods eradicate the disk anyway.
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I currently have 22 titles in queue with NF and of those 22, only FOUR titles are avaliable now. And none of these four are current releases. The problem here(Pensacola, FL.) is not even with one format, I rent SD, HD, and Blu. Its all 3. I have emailed their cust. suggestions twice now but I'm sure nothing will come of that I don't want to have to quit the service because its convienient but may not be left with much choice. There have been alot of new HD and Blu owners in the past few months but NF doesn't seem to be growing along with its customer base. BB is no better. After seeing this thread, I guess I am not alone here in Pensacola with this problem.
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Well, I'm just about to run out of hi-def movies to watch from Netflix. I've been renting BD's (and to a lesser extent, HD DVD's) for about 9 months, and for much of that time, discs became available at about the same rate I was renting them. But for the past six weeks or so, the availability rate has really gone down, while the number of discs in my wait list continues to grow. By next week, my available list will be exhausted, and I'll be left with about 30 BD's and HD DVD's on the wait list.

I can only conclude that demand has not kept up with the supply at Netflix.
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I rejoined Netflix after I received a PS3 for Christmas. I have 15 Blu-Ray discs in my queue. They all have wait times. Boooo.

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They should keep track of who is damaging their disc and cancel their subscriptions.

I don't think it's necessarily the end user here. I'm not totally sure that the BD standard is durable enough to survive repeated trips through the post office, or at least less so than DVD. When I first signed up (or resumed), I had gotten several movies with a tiny crack in the edge that made them unplayable. I think I went through three copies of Casino Royale - at least two unique discs as I marked them in a discrete place on the cover art side. Since then, I've been doing a lot better.
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No thanks, Timwit. I believe in economies of scale. The Netflix model is not at fault, we just need another class action to improve their responsiveness for HD customers

Class action does not get us anything useful to the "small guy". The last one netted $2.5M to the lawyers (no doubt at exorbitant rates), and the real customers got a month's upgraded service where you had to manually downgrade at the end or else pay the higher fee.
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I can only conclude that demand has not kept up with the supply at Netflix.

I think you mean supply has not kept up with demand.
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Well this may explain some of it.

Netflix offers all you can watch online


As i said in an earlier post. Netflix did not seem at all interested when I cancelled about home delivery issues. All they seemed to care about was what I thought about the watch it now feature. I guess they are so busy getting this part of their service going that they dont care so much about who is getting what delivered.

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That would be nice if they were selling Blu titles but to my knowledge they are not.

It would be interesting to see how many titles they actually do sell once demand for them as rentals drops to nothing.

BD is still a growing format. They'll probably be able to keep what they can until they have to retire damaged copies. With what looks like may be a rush of new customers or existing customers with lots of new PS3s, A2s, A3s and whatever, I can see the popular titles being hard to get for the time being until the system adjusts.
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Very interesting thread and I appreciate everyone posting about their Netflix experience. Up to the time I read this thread, I was planning on joining Netflix, but now I'm not.

Its pretty obvious that Netflix isn't worth it due to the long delay times. Seems to me that there should be something in their rental plan that say that if thy can't furnish x number of disk during the month, then your monthly fee is pro rated, but they don't.

Up until this thread, I had 60 HD movies in my queue, with maybe seven of them with a wait. I've been adding many of the titles in this thread too, 2 out of 20 of those titles are available.

I've done OK, I won't cancel unless they can't send me movies in my queue, so far, they're doing pretty well. I know that you can't expect them to give you the newest releases right away, though there's that trick mentioned that you can try. But if everyone does that, then the gig's up.

One thing that does bug me is that if it's at a different center, they delay mailing it for another day, so instead of next day for a local center, two days from a remote center, the extra day means three days. I don't understand what the deal is, the intentional delay is stupid.
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I don't think it's necessarily the end user here. I'm not totally sure that the BD standard is durable enough to survive repeated trips through the post office, or at least less so than DVD. When I first signed up (or resumed), I had gotten several movies with a tiny crack in the edge that made them unplayable. I think I went through three copies of Casino Royale - at least two unique discs as I marked them in a discrete place on the cover art side. Since then, I've been doing a lot better.

If blu-ray can stand up to steel wool and pizza cutters, I think it can handle the U.S. Postal Service:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...ture_Video/450

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEb...ture_Video/450


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Everyone that uses Netflix and is unhappy with the long wait status for BD titles should GO TO THIS PAGE:

http://www.netflix.com/Suggest?type=0

and complete the form informing them that their availability for BD discs are pathetic and they need to purchase more titles to statisfy user demand.

Done!! I have 23 HD DVD or Blu-ray movies that are either short or long wait.
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If blu-ray can stand up to steel wool and pizza cutters, I think it can handle the U.S. Postal Service:

http://www.highdefdigest.com/news/sh...ture_Video/450

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5jEb...ture_Video/450

I really don't have any other reasonable explanation, it happens. It might be fatigue damage from flexing, something that those videos don't test. Packages often aren't neatly stacked, anything that supports one edge and something presses down in the middle. The cracks get into perimeter of the metal layer, it only takes a millimeter or two in from the edge of the disc and the movie doesn't play.
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Mailed two back on Saturday and as of today 9:00am, netflix status is we expect to ship your next movie by Monday. Well that is what it said last week and it didn't happen. Maybe if that hub doesn't have the next one in the queue, then the shipping gets delayed to the next day from another hub? It seems like that is what happened to me last week.

Time will tell.
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I finally broke down and called. The CSR told me that "There is a war, a format war, going on and we are not planning on investing in additional BDs or HD (dvds) until the war is over."

She went on to say that they'll continue to stock new releases, but they have no immediate plans on boosting inventory for anything in stock until more customers switch their preference to high def.

Lastly, she told me that I should be patient if I want BD's (even though I expressed the fact that my last movie was shipped on 1/5 and I only have 1 or 3 movies at home AND that I'm paying for a service that they aren't providing). I then said to her that "It seems that you're telling me that if I want to rent blu-rays, that I should cancel my subsription and try again in a few months, is that correct?" Response : "Yes sir. Would you like me to go ahead and process that?" I said no thanks, politely hung up and I just downgraded to 1 at a time over the net. I'll give this 1 more month, then it's over for me.
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I finally broke down and called. The CSR told me that "There is a war, a format war, going on and we are not planning on investing in additional BDs or HD (dvds) until the war is over."

She went on to say that they'll continue to stock new releases, but they have no immediate plans on boosting inventory for anything in stock until more customers switch their preference to high def.

Lastly, she told me that I should be patient if I want BD's (even though I expressed the fact that my last movie was shipped on 1/5 and I only have 1 or 3 movies at home AND that I'm paying for a service that they aren't providing). I then said to her that "It seems that you're telling me that if I want to rent blu-rays, that I should cancel my subsription and try again in a few months, is that correct?" Response : "Yes sir. Would you like me to go ahead and process that?" I said no thanks, politely hung up and I just downgraded to 1 at a time over the net. I'll give this 1 more month, then it's over for me.


Why didn't you tell her that the format was IS over -- it was over as of January 4th, when Warner Bros. switched sides.

Call back.


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I used to get new releases on BD or HD-DVD every Monday, always leaving available slots . Not any longer. Now all new releases go straight from not released to very long wait.

Blockbuster is even worse!

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I don't think it's necessarily the end user here. I'm not totally sure that the BD standard is durable enough to survive repeated trips through the post office, or at least less so than DVD. When I first signed up (or resumed), I had gotten several movies with a tiny crack in the edge that made them unplayable. I think I went through three copies of Casino Royale - at least two unique discs as I marked them in a discrete place on the cover art side. Since then, I've been doing a lot better.

I'm not sure I completely agree with that either. I've been a Netflix user for 3 years, 3 at a time plan. I've probably rented 100 BRD's, 1000 DVD's, and close to 100 HD-DVD's (back when I had a player). Out of close to 100 BRD's rented I've only had ONE DISC that I couldn't play (The Descent). I'd say close to half of the HD-DVD's I rented locked up my player at one point - even though I didn't see any visible stratches on the disc. DVD's have been hit and miss, but overall I've been very successful with getting good discs.

Netflix is really start to make me angry as well. Not only from the long wait times, but they NEVER seem to have BRD's in their warehouses close to me. I live in Indianapolis, and they have a shipping facility here. However, I've recently gotten Clockwork Orange and Queen: Live from Montreal from out of state (WAY OUT OF STATE!). The title will sit as "processing" for 1-2 days in my queue, then I'll get a notification that the disc has shipped from "Orlando, FL" or "San Diego, CA" and I wait another 3-5 days for it to get to my home.

I can understand not a lot of stock for the Queen disc, but A Clockwork Orange? Seriously? Still despite all of their downfalls I'm sticking with them, as $17.99 a month for roughly 12-15 moves is cheaper than BRD's for $25 a pop.

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I went from the 3 at a time to one. This was partially out of frustration with long waits on some titles, having watched all the older movies that I had on my list and the desire to free up more time to rewatch some of the movies in my own collection.

I was surprised to receive The Rock even though it was listed as a long wait
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I went from the 3 at a time to one. This was partially out of frustration with long waits on some titles, having watched all the older movies that I had on my list and the desire to free up more time to rewatch some of the movies in my own collection.

I was surprised to receive The Rock even though it was listed as a long wait

Interesting.
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Well one got changed now to shipping today and it was the fifth one down in my queue that was available. 3 others ahead of that saying available now got bypassed.

I'm sure they are going to the one on the queue that was available from their hub closest to me where my returns went. I'll keep monitoring to see how things go. If I'm not satisifed, .........
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I went from the 3 at a time to one. This was partially out of frustration with long waits on some titles, having watched all the older movies that I had on my list and the desire to free up more time to rewatch some of the movies in my own collection.

I was surprised to receive The Rock even though it was listed as a long wait

Actually that is a good strategy. I was told by the CSR that people with the lower service levels (less movies out at a time) get priority over people who have a larger service level.

The thinking being that they will have other movies to watch.


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aaaaaaargh.

I have an open slot (since last week) -- 3 out at a time.

They just changed it to my next available movie will ship tomorrow.

So nothing shipping today.

Note that I have "Breaker Morant" on my list, which is released on blu-ray tomorrow and is an OLD movie - - that not many people will want. (They ship new releases on Monday for Tuesday release dates).

I can't believe they didn't ship that today.


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I received the standard DVD version of Shoot'em up instead of the the blu-ray version I had in my queue. Let's hope they don't start doing that as a matter of policy...shipping standard def vs. high def...
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