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I needed to test out an old HD projector and while limited on features and versatility.... Man did this A1 still throw a nice PQ on Happy Feet HD-DVD and a few SD-DVD's I threw at it.

I keep it around as my backup player. What a tank!!! Heavy and slow, but the PQ was still stellar!!!!

I was surprised this section of the forums was even still here.
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Yeah, I always loved my A1. I still have it in storage, and never could get rid of it. My unit always worked flawlessly, so I held on to it. biggrin.gif
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I have kept mine connected in the home theater for the last 6.5 years but I rarely use it. It has been a solid player for me when I have used it. When it quits working properly is likely the time I disconnect it and who knows, playing 2 or 3 discs a year on average might not break it any time soon. I think I have watched one HD DVD this year and I used an LG BH200 so last year must have been the last time I used it. I thought there might be some HD DVDs the BH200 wouldn't play and the HD-A1 was there as a back up since I connected the BH200 in 2008 but that hasn't been the case so once in a while, I just put an HD DVD in the A1 to make sure it still works.

It does appear it was built to last although I don't think I have played over 100 discs with mine.
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I still use mine as my primary upscaler in my HT viewing my quite large SD collection.

...finally retired and spending time in my HT!!!

My equipment consists of: Epson 9500 UB Projector(Avical ISFd); 110" JKP Affinity Screen; Panny BD30 Player, Tosh HDA1 Player; Definitive Speakers (Center, Towers, Rear); Onkyo 608 A/V Receiver; Nevo Q50 Remote; TWC DVR-HD Cable Box; 5 Bello chairs.
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+1 on that. Still have my XA1 hooked up to my kids room with my "old" 40" Sony XBR LCD. Never gave me a bit of trouble besides an occasional freeze requiring a "reboot". Always loved the "high end" looks and build quality of the first gen Toshibas.
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I want to buy an HD-DVD player but I heard some of them are not reliable as they have playback issues, or die quickly.

 

Any one can recommend which ones are the better players? I also have the HD-DVD add-on for the Xbox 360 as an option because I have that console.

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I want to buy an HD-DVD player but I heard some of them are not reliable as they have playback issues, or die quickly.

Any one can recommend which ones are the better players? I also have the HD-DVD add-on for the Xbox 360 as an option because I have that console.

You should probably avoid dual format players (LG & Samsung) as they have been known to gag on certain titles due to firmware issues.
Other than that, I am not aware of any particular model that has major issues. A number of actual title have problems (mostly Warner) due to shoddy manufacturing.
You should probably try for a Toshiba HD-A35 or HD-XA2 (or its Onkyo clone), since these are the only models capable of bitstreaming lossless audio codecs to a receiver capable of decoding them.
If you do not care about bitstreaming lossless audio - I would recommend a HD-A30 as a possibility you might pick up for a lot less $$ than the previously suggested models.

However, unless you have a fair number of HD-DVD titles already you want to be able to play - I would skip the whole idea and stick with blu-ray. And I am speaking as a person who has a large HD-DVD collection and a number of players. If I wasn't already into this format, I surely would not start now.

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You should probably avoid dual format players (LG & Samsung) as they have been known to gag on certain titles due to firmware issues.
Other than that, I am not aware of any particular model that has major issues. A number of actual title have problems (mostly Warner) due to shoddy manufacturing.
You should probably try for a Toshiba HD-A35 or HD-XA2 (or its Onkyo clone), since these are the only models capable of bitstreaming lossless audio codecs to a receiver capable of decoding them.
If you do not care about bitstreaming lossless audio - I would recommend a HD-A30 as a possibility you might pick up for a lot less $$ than the previously suggested models.

However, unless you have a fair number of HD-DVD titles already you want to be able to play - I would skip the whole idea and stick with blu-ray. And I am speaking as a person who has a large HD-DVD collection and a number of players. If I wasn't already into this format, I surely would not start now.
 

Thanks for the valuable tips. I have no idea what bitstreaming lossless audio is.  I heard the earlier models had issues, I believe they were Toshiba A1 .

 

I have never seen an HD-DVD but I thought it would be fun to experience a dead format, so its all about price for me. HD-DVD themselves are cheap but I wonder how much I should invest in a player. I am think about getting the 360 add-ons , they seem to be the cheapest HD-DVD players.

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Thanks for the valuable tips. I have no idea what bitstreaming lossless audio is.  I heard the earlier models had issues, I believe they were Toshiba A1 .

I have never seen an HD-DVD but I thought it would be fun to experience a dead format, so its all about price for me. HD-DVD themselves are cheap but I wonder how much I should invest in a player. I am think about getting the 360 add-ons , they seem to be the cheapest HD-DVD players.

I purchased a mint condition Toshiba HD-A30 for $50 and a mint condition Toshiba HD-A35 for around $100 a number of years ago. HD-XA2s are usually more expensive.
My primary player is a Toshiba HD-A35. Based upon your comments, a good condition HD-A30 might suit your purposes just fine, or a 360 add-on if you have your game system connected to your HDTV.

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Thanks for the valuable tips. I have no idea what bitstreaming lossless audio is.  I heard the earlier models had issues, I believe they were Toshiba A1 .

I have an A1 (along with an A30 and A35). The thing is built like a tank, I've had no issues with it at all.
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Glad to see I'm not the only one with my Tos HD-A2 still in my active set up. I bought a good number of titles when places were blowing them out. I still say this was the better format, but lost out. Just like the VHS - Beta which was likely won because the porn industry picked VHS. I still think the HD-DVD looks better than my 2 year old Pio Elite Blu-ray. I still break out those moves to watch them in the A2.

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Well, while we're reminiscing... I have 2, XA1s, and XA2, and an LG BH200. I bought the 2nd XA1 on sale at an FYE store way back when for $99. Out the door and brand new! By then I had a growing HD-DVD library and thot it wise to have a backup player, but will admit I haven't watched too many HD-DVD over the past couple of years. They will be put back into service once my man-cave is done. I've used the 2nd XA1 as a CD transport for my stereo listening rig. Built like a brick sh%t house. smile.gif And I've never had any problems with any of them. I, too, think HD-DVDs have just a slight edge over Bluray in PQ. Not much, just a tad finer appeal to my eyes anyway. I 'll probably hang on to them until for another decade unless there's a compelling reason to get rid of them.

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I ended up buying an HD-DVD add on for the xbox 360, it was the most widely available HD-DVD player for cheap prices.  Picture quality is amazing especially when you consider this was out in the era of ps2. I saw Swordfish on it.

 

Both Hd-dvds I have (Superman Returns) got no pamphlets or brochures inside, is it a thing with HD-DVDs?

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My A1 acts as my main HD DVD / DVD player in my home theatre. I have another A1 in storage, plus a new-in-box A3 and a Venturer SHD-7000.
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You know, at the time both the A1 and the XA1 were dissed for "only" having 1080i output. I always thought my XA1 had a better quality actually watching movies than my XA2 (extreme judder running in 1080p/24 mode). Just for fun last week (watching another one of my dozen or so "shrinkwrapped" HDDVD's), i reset the output on my XA2 to 1080i. It seems to me it produced alot smoother picture while still looking sharp and clean, NO more judder. I guess the Sony's don't play nice with 1080p/24, probably tries to re process it.
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Any one thinks the HD-DVD library is weak in titles not number of releases? A lot of the movies are extremely mediocre and TV - Show releases are very very small compared to the boxsets we have today.

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Any one thinks the HD-DVD library is weak in titles not number of releases? A lot of the movies are extremely mediocre and TV - Show releases are very very small compared to the boxsets we have today.

It was a short-lived format supported by a small number of studios, of course the releases were mediocre.

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I have an A1 up in the loft. I use a Xbox 360 add-on connected to my HTPC for playback these days (and a Xbox360 & add-on in my other room). The HTPC route gives me 1080p and bitstreaming audio for the HD formats...something the A1 couldn't do. However I had heard that some considered the analog audio outs of the A1 to be excellent and the device would make an excellent CD player !! I'm keen to build a nice hifi system for my lounge (ie. nice turntable, nice amp, DAC, floorstanders) and was wondering if the A1 could be resurrected as a CD player in this set up? Overkill perhapps?
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I still have my A1 that was packed in the box and put up in the closet only because I wanted to upgrade it to a 2nd gen HD-DVD player. The goal was to be able to stream Dolby True HD and Dolby Digital Plus to my Pioneer Elite SC-05. I have tried to change the settings on my newer Toshiba HD-XA2 still doesn't stream Dolby True HD or Dolby Digital Plus I still get PCM on my receiver display. Has anyone been able to stream ether audio format to there receiver with a HD-DVD player. I have no issues with Dolby True HD or DTS-HD Master Auido coming from my Denon Bluray player.

I do occasionally watch one of my HD-DVD titles and they still look good.

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I have the D2 and I watched MI-3 yesterday and still very good!

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My A35 requires the following settings in the audio section of setup to bitstream lossless codecs over hdmi:
Digital Out HDMI = Auto
Digital Direct Audio Mode = On


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I still have my A1 that was packed in the box and put up in the closet only because I wanted to upgrade it to a 2nd gen HD-DVD player. The goal was to be able to stream Dolby True HD and Dolby Digital Plus to my Pioneer Elite SC-05. I have tried to change the settings on my newer Toshiba HD-XA2 still doesn't stream Dolby True HD or Dolby Digital Plus I still get PCM on my receiver display. Has anyone been able to stream ether audio format to there receiver with a HD-DVD player. I have no issues with Dolby True HD or DTS-HD Master Auido coming from my Denon Bluray player.

I do occasionally watch one of my HD-DVD titles and they still look good.

A long-time audio/video addict!
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