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Hi,

I am considering going ahead and selling the standard def dvd's that I will be replacing with the of interest announced HD-DVD's I will be purchasing when released. I have many D-Theater titles and a lot of a DVHS movies recorded that I haven't watched. I really can't imagine watching any of the titles I will be replacing with their HD-DVD countrparts this year. After a steady diet of HD movies, most especially older SD dvds title like Maverick seem almost unwatchable. I am thinking that I might be able to sell them for more cash now than when the HD versions come out. My only concern is that these announced titles may not actually be released. Is there a risk of this happening? Do you think it's a bad idea to sell these titles this soon?
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Too soon.

Firstly, you're gonna be one of the early adopters of either BD or HD-DVD judging from your eagerness. That also means that once either format releases its movies, about 90% of the population would still be holding on to their VHS or DVD version of that movie.

So wait until the movies and players are actually released before you go and sell them.


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NO, in fact if you wait any longer it will be much too late. While you're at it, get rid of your dvd player and any PC dvd drives while you still can, becuse they won't be worth a dime. Oh, and if your display device doesn't have an HDMI input, you might as well consider it worthless crap once the next gen players come out. 3 neighbors on my block this very week had huge garage sales consisting of nothing but SD DVDs, dvd players and drives, and junky old plasmas that were ED or only had analog inputs. They didn't sell a thing, and the trashmen took the stuff away this morning. So don't wait another second, and get rid of that stuff before the suckers *ahem*...I mean 'buyers' find out SD DVD is already dead. :D

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Palladin,

It's sarcastic jerks like you that are always pissing on threads that bring this great forum down.



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Thanks for your input!

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My mistake. I always thought it was the fools who showed up here expecting others to have crystal balls and prognosticate the future ramifications on the marketplace of a product that won't even be out for another 9 months, because they don't want to make a decision for themselves, as the ones who were bringing "this great forum down".

And (with apologies to Frank Zappa), I'm guessing those types don't know better than to avoid digesting the yellow snow, let alone watching out for it.

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That's what we do hear, it's called discussion. Have you seen the thread on HD-DVD announced titles? It's well over 200 pages so I guess I am not the only one on the forum who is trying to look into a crystal ball. If we only discussed products and software currently available there would be a hell of a lot less threads on this forum. I ask for opinions on this HDTV Software forum not because I can't make a decision for myself. I ask for opinions because I hold the opinions of the other members who frequent this specific forum in high regard.

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Have you seen the thread on HD-DVD announced titles? It's well over 200 pages so I guess I am not the only one on the forum who is trying to look into a crystal ball.
No, I haven't. What subforum is the thread on HD-DVD announced titles with well over 200 pages located in?

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Since SD DVDs are currently selling for very low prices used, I don't think the HD releases will have a big impact, primarily because SD DVD will maintain high demand. Used SD DVD prices will still sell at a significant discount from new SD DVD prices. The factors that will have a much bigger impact on used SD DVD prices are supply, current new price, and has there been a new an improved SD DVD release of the same title. Since there will be some large collections sold by those upgrading to one of the new HD formats, you might see large collections sold at bargain prices.

In reality, I don't have a clue since the market for this stuff acts crazy sometimes. Just look at eBay prices on used DTheater HDTV tapes. I would have thought that soon to be dead format would not be enjoying such robust demand and high prices. I have been buying used recent release DVDs for an average of $5 - $6 over the past couple of months.

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I had a box of 40 DVDs that I had HD versions of or duplicates of and tried to sell the lot and couldn't get offers of more than 1.50 each . They are nearly worthless now, what will they be worth in a year ? I gave the lot to the library.

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I'll never repurchase all of my DVD's in an HD format. Only special titles that I truly love and cherish. I see this event as being several years down the road, at least, for me.

I certainly wonder about D-VHS's future once these HD formats actually hit the streets.

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I had a box of 40 DVDs that I had HD versions of or duplicates of and tried to sell the lot and couldn't get offers of more than 1.50 each . They are nearly worthless now, what will they be worth in a year ? I gave the lot to the library.

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Good on you, Art. Yeah, donate those DVDs to your local lending library! No porn - NC-17 will do.


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I sold nearly my entire DVD collection about two years ago in anticipation of Blu-ray/HD-DVD. IMO the sooner you sell the better as the price of used DVDs is only going lower. However your case may be different, I rarely watch the same movie twice within a year so I don't miss the 900+ movies I once owned. I realize there's always going to be a better format around the corner but I believe Blu-ray/HD-DVD will have a much longer lifespan than DVD will have. I learned a lot during my DVD buying time. I continuously upgraded to better versions of movies, even those that weren't my favorites. I don't plan on wasting my time with new special edition/superbit/director's cuts anymore. I may have done okay selling those DVDs but it wasn't exactly fun selling them on eBay and DVD forums and running to the post office several times a week. God willing I will never replace my movie collection again!
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Any movie that I have on DVD that I get recorded in HD via D-VHS or buy a D-Theater version, I retire. Then I use those DVD's for travel on my portable DVD player. Since I have a 300 disc carosel, I don't remove any of them from their slots. I will never sell any DVD, simply because they still look great on SD TV's, laptop computers, and portable DVD players.

Tom, I'm thinking that if you need the cash now, sell them now. If you need the cash later, sell them later. If you don't need the cash, then just be happy and use them as I do or give them to your "less high tech fortunate" buddies.:D

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I certainly wonder about D-VHS's future once these HD formats actually hit the streets.
Yes, you and the others can continue to wonder, but you all need to understand that you won't be able to record on those shiny discs once they "hit the streets".

Enjoy waiting 12-36 months for your favorite movie/TV show/Sporting event that I already have in HD via D-VHS.:D

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Yes, you and the others can continue to wonder, but you all need to understand that you won't be able to record on those shiny discs once they "hit the streets".

Enjoy waiting 12-36 months for your favorite movie/TV show/Sporting event that I already have in HD via D-VHS.:D
Just to clarify, Blu-Ray will be released with player and recorder versions at launch. HD-DVD will take some time. (Let's continue this recordable thread elsewhere)


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Just to clarify, Blu-Ray will be released with player and recorder versions at launch. HD-DVD will take some time. (Let's continue this recordable thread elsewhere)


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No, let's not since it is a significant issue regarding the availibility of HD content! Please let me know how I will be able to record movies/TV shows/Sporting events via Blu-ray.

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No, let's not since it is a significant issue regarding the availibility of HD content! Please let me know how I will be able to record movies/TV shows/Sporting events via Blu-ray.
It's quite easy, really. Blu-Ray has three formats : BD-ROM, BD-R (write once) and BD-RW (write/rewrite).

When Blu-Ray v. 2 is released (v.1 is now available in Japan), you could get a Blu-Ray recorder, that plays prerecorded BDs, DVDs and CDs, that can enable you to record stuff from either a cable box or off-air transmission. There could also be a higher end version of it where the BD-recorder is also a DVR, much like Tivo with a DVD burner. Details on how the signal will be passed through to the BD recorder is still not available (but off-air should be easy) but the BD recorders will be coming.

Are we informed enough?


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It's quite easy, really. Blu-Ray has three formats : BD-ROM, BD-R (write once) and BD-RW (write/rewrite).

When Blu-Ray v. 2 is released (v.1 is now available in Japan), you could get a Blu-Ray recorder, that plays prerecorded BDs, DVDs and CDs, that can enable you to record stuff from either a cable box or off-air transmission. There could also be a higher end version of it where the BD-recorder is also a DVR, much like Tivo with a DVD burner. Details on how the signal will be passed through to the BD recorder is still not available (but off-air should be easy) but the BD recorders will be coming.

Are we informed enough?


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No. You haven't told me anything concrete.

Your "Details on how the signal will be passed through to the BD recorder is still not available" is a classic. I'm kind of thinking that's a pretty important step. Let us know when you come up with anything more than conjecture.

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No. You haven't told me anything concrete.

That's because there's nothing concrete to tell you other than the fact that by launch date, BD will be released in player form, recorder form and DVR-recorder form.
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Your "Details on how the signal will be passed through to the BD recorder is still not available" is a classic. I'm kind of thinking that's a pretty important step. Let us know when you come up with anything more than conjecture.
Just like a VCR or a D-VHS deck, there would obviously be a built-in SD/HDTV tuner for a BD/BD+DVR recorder that you cable up to your aerial to get terrestrial stations.

Other than that, it's all up in the air. The set could be equipped with a cable-card device or it could be wired up with your cable/VOOM receiver through Firewire or HDMI .

The point of it all is that you will be able to record your Superbowl, Jay Leno, Lost and the movie of the week on those shiny BD-R/RW discs at launch date.


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That's because there's nothing concrete to tell you other than the fact that by launch date, BD will be released in player form, recorder form and DVR-recorder form.
Just like a VCR or a D-VHS deck, there would obviously be a built-in SD/HDTV tuner for a BD/BD+DVR recorder that you cable up to your aerial to get terrestrial stations.

Other than that, it's all up in the air. The set could be equipped with a cable-card device or it could be wired up with your cable/VOOM receiver through Firewire or HDMI .

The point of it all is that you will be able to record your Superbowl, Jay Leno, Lost and the movie of the week on those shiny BD-R/RW discs at launch date.


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Much better...I hope you are correct.

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With 54 D-Theater tapes and over 200 films recorded in HD DVHS I am running out of storage space for my about 400 DVDs. I'm going to keep only the DVDs I love and sell the rest. Hopefully I can get down to a 100 or so and then sell thee rest if and when their HD counterpart comes out. After watching HD films on my 92" screen from 1.5x screen width away SD DVDs are hard to enjoy. I sure hope that these two upcoming HD formats don't have edge enhancement. There is no excuse for it. This is the number one reason I find so many SD DVD's hard to watch. With HD Satellite and D-Theater EE is not noticeable giving the image a film like look rather than a video look. Thanks for the input!

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You dont need a magic 8ball to know that the sooner you sell the better off you are. It's exactly what I am doing right now, some of them are pretty hard to take out of the collection but I can not enjoy them on my 106" screen and I've decided to rebuild the collection from the start.
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I'd say no, don't sell your collection just yet.

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From my experience a few weeks ago trying to sell about 40 DVDs as a lot ,unless you bought yours at a garage sale , you will get hammered when you sell them regardless.

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