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I really want to get an HD-DVD player, but only if it will allow for successful transmission of signal/data between an HDMI output cable-to-HDMI/DVI converter-to-DVI input on plasma panel.

Will the HD-DVD players' HDMI outputs let me do such a thing or will the HDCP protection not allow it??

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There are switches that work with HDCP. The cables and switch box don't care what data is being passed. If your plasma is HDCP compatible, it should work.

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I'm amazed at how few people are upset that their HDTV is made obsolete by
the introduction of HD-DVD and BD.

To bad someone can't make a box that converts HDMI to DVI and Component outs
that would work....
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HDMI-to-DVI cables or adapters should work just fine.
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The converter will work, but as PooperScooper said, your Plasma has to support HDCP or it will not work.

So the important thing for you to check out is if your Plasma supports HDCP.

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Can I use a HDMI Splitter to plug in two HDMI Sources into one input? Since only one output would be on at a time would this be an issue. I already have the Sony DVD Changer plugged into the HDMI of my set.
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Can I use a HDMI Splitter to plug in two HDMI Sources into one input? Since only one output would be on at a time would this be an issue. I already have the Sony DVD Changer plugged into the HDMI of my set.
No you can't. A splitter is for sending one output (such as from a DVD player) to 2 separate inputs (such as a TV and a receiver). What you need is a switcher to take 2 outputs into one input. A splitter will not work.
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No that's not what this splitter was. It's available on www.monoprice.com. It had two Female inputs to a male single output. It's looks like you would take the output of the players into the splitters female inputs and it would combine them to one HDMI Input
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No that's not what this splitter was. It's available on www.monoprice.com. It had two Female inputs to a male single output. It's looks like you would take the output of the players into the splitters female inputs and it would combine them to one HDMI Input
Sorry, but it does not work that way. If you're referring to the $12.46 splitter, here is what is says: "This splitter cable is for splitting 1 HDMI signal to 2 HDMI." As I stated above, splitters are for sending one HDMI signal to 2 different pieces of electronics, such as to 1 HDTV and 1 receiver. It is unidirectional and will NOT allow you to send 2 separate outputs (such as a cable box and a DVD player, or 2 DVD players) into 1 input (such as 1 HDTV). You need an HDMI switcher for that, which is more expensive.
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Ah. Ok will I guess I'll have to look for a good manual switcher.
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Check out Gefen Products they have switchers, some with remotes as well.
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Check out Gefen Products they have switchers, some with remotes as well.
I'm gonna be kinda low on Cash so I'm staying Manual, liked to get a decent quality one thou.
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The converter will work, but as PooperScooper said, your Plasma has to support HDCP or it will not work.

So the important thing for you to check out is if your Plasma supports HDCP.

-Mark

I'm very sure my plasma panel does not support HDCP. But I have been wanting to update the display anyways, so this makes for a good excuse.

Hard part is researching/deciding just exactly what it is I want to replace it with [early returns are either a Panny or Pio plasma].

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I'm gonna be kinda low on Cash so I'm staying Manual, liked to get a decent quality one thou.
Markertek.com will have some availible in mid-February......its called the DVIAB-1 you will not see it on there web page but if you type in DVIAB-1 it will show you the product....its a manual 2x1 switch for $39.98 ...I have one pre-ordered I'm # 17 on waiting list....though I'll probley cancel my order if the 4x1 powered switcher works for me from Monoprice........according to this forum(theres a thread about this HDMI Manual switcher somewere on this forum,I can't seem to find it) the DVIAB-1 is a well constructed piece that seems to work well,and is ALOT CHEAPER......
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I'm amazed at how few people are upset that their HDTV is made obsolete by
the introduction of HD-DVD and BD.

To bad someone can't make a box that converts HDMI to DVI and Component outs
that would work....
They'll start to be upset when they go to the local BB and CC and inquire about buying one of the new high def players for their HDTV only to be asked some questions about their model of HDTV.

Sounds like a real chore for some retail salesperson to explain to non-HDMI HDTV customers what all the complications are, HDMI->DVI, Component down-rezzing, that should be clear as mud...

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That's why they won't bother.

"Can I watch this disk on my TV?"
"Yes."

Sure, it will be difficult to explain to the generic consumer, but the generic consumer won't ask anything beyond the above question. And won't notice if his TV is showing 480p instead of 1080i.

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Originally Posted by moe29
I'm amazed at how few people are upset that their HDTV is made obsolete by
the introduction of HD-DVD and BD.

To bad someone can't make a box that converts HDMI to DVI and Component outs
that would work....

That's why I just won't be buying one for quite awhile. I was rather looking forward to HD movies, but I refuse to spend thousands of dollars to get a new HDTV with the required connections-my HDTV works fine but just lacks the new connections. The format war is rather turning me off to the whole thing as well.

Someone probably will make one of those boxes. It wouldn't be legal in the US (DMCA BS), but they'll probably be made.

I think most people would buy discs even if there was no DRM or other restrictions on them. Most people don't really want to steal or otherwise break the law and are willing to pay reasonable prices. I know I'm like that. Unfortunately, I'm given the choice of spending multiple thousands of dollars to watch an HD movie, break the law go around copy protection, or just not watch HD movies. I'll likely choose to not watch.
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