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Here are the RS232 Serial Protocols for the XA-1 : I have not tested these yet but expect to soon

serial communications protocol consists of start codes (4bytes), function code (2bytes), and reversal function code (2 bytes) for Toshiba HD DVD Player

Start code 0x45 and 0xB5

Example to send a pause code "00"
0x45,0xB5,0x00,0xFF

Example to send a Play code "15"
0x45,0xB5,0x15,0xEA

RS232C protocol:

3 wire 9600bps /8 data bits /1 stop bit /no parity /no flow control
9 pin male D connector DB9

pin 2 is receive
pin 3 is transmit
pin 5 is signal ground



start code: "45" + "B5"

Table of functions

00 Pause/step
01 1
02 2
03 3
04 4
05 5
06 6
07 7
08 8
09 9
0A 0
0D Slow
12 Power ON/Standby
13 Forward
14 Stop
15 Play
16 Display (Navi)
19 Review
1B Cancel
20 Setup
21 Enter
22 Return
23 Skip (back)
24 Skip (forward)
25 +10
26 T. Search
27 Audio
28 Subtitle
29 Angle
2B Repeat (VCR=Play Mode)
31 Door
32 Tab
33 Cursor
34 A
35 B
36 C
37 D
38 Return from Menu (resume)
41 Dimmer
4D Right
4E I/P Selector (resolution)
51 Left
80 UP
81 Down
82 Upper Right
83 Lower Right
84 Menu
85 Lower Left
86 Upper Right
92 Power ON
93 Power OFF
9F HDMI
DE Title (Top Menu)
EF Clear
F5 Open/Close

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Mark,
What system are you using to control the HD-XA1? I guess the strings are universal, but just curious in case. Seems like I had some issues with unique protocol before, but I can't remember what I was programming. It must have been about 5 years ago.

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I use RTI commands which are one way for now (two way later this year)

I know folks using Crestron are already using RS232 control of the XA-1

I am getting mine (XA-1) next week and will try the commands

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Congrats on the new arrival! I also like the RTI stuff, and am looking forward to their new processor. The factory told me last week that it should be shipping product by CEDIA 2006. Since they showed the prototype and discussed its features/functionality at CEDIA 2005, I guess it's about time to start building it! The guy I talked to also mentioned that any T3 you have in the field should be upgradeable to WiFi to enable two way to the remote, which is fantastic.

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Well, Mark, I guess we are the only ones who care about this!

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How about Main lobby or CQC support...

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I've never heard of a 'reversal code'. Would that be 'FF' minus the function code?

Any idea where the protocols came from? I gave Toshiba a hard time during their HD-DVD Road Tour about whether or not the protocols would be in the manual or readily available on their website since they were happily touting it as a 'feature' of the player. To many companies say "LOOK! We have RS-232" - Then won't release the codes to control it. Go figure.

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Anybody got the PAUSE function to work? Using 0x45,0xB5,0x00,0xFF doesn't work for me... all other commands function ok.

[edit]Never mind, sorted. Slight error higher up the code meant the pause command wasn't being sent [/edit]

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update

a few folks have gotten the serial commands to work:

you must use a null modem adapter since pins 2 & 3 are reversed: there is no feedback from the XA-1 (one-way only, not bidirectional)

The commands given in post number 1 are correct

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Yup, I can confirm that I am controlling my HD-XA1 exclusively via rs232.

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Mark,

I have the HD-A1...Is there a way use the above strings for IR commands rather than RS-232 with RTI?

I'd like a discrete OFF command...

Thanks!

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I'd like a discrete OFF command...

Thanks!

Ditto!!!

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My XA1 is controlled using RS232 only. Although a discrete off would be nice there are some workarounds that may be used until this issue is fixed. The usually hack of turning the unit on with a discrete on ("on" or "play") then followed by a "power" command doesn't work here because the unit will not respond to any additional commands until it boots up. But this could be done with a very long delay. The other option is to use variables (if your remote supports them) and keep track of the power status. Of course this assumes all control is done through your universal remote and not the supplied remote or physically touching the buttons on the front of the player. Mine is working flawlessly using variables and hasn't gotten out of sync once yet.
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another way to do it is with a trigger command from your preamp or remote control system:

use a Niles AC-1 , or several models of power conditioners that accept triggers to switch AC outlets, and switch the AC power to turn the A-1 on and off

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Mark,

I have the HD-A1...Is there a way use the above strings for IR commands rather than RS-232 with RTI?

I'd like a discrete OFF command...

Thanks!

FYI this is covered in the FAQ entry. discrete off doesn't work for both IR and RS232 as of v1.4. You need to complain to Toshiba.
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...&&#post7498601
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So Jeff...the prontohex didn't work for you?

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Sorry to be dense, but are the 0xFF and 0xEA codes appended to the string supposed to be alternated? For example, do I start with 0xFF and then use 0xEA, then 0xFF, etc., or is there a reason to start with one or the other? I understand the first three 2-bit segments, just not sure how to implement the fourth one. Thank you for your previous help, too.

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P.S. Is the issue of a non-functional "ON" and "OFF" resolved with the v2.0 firmware update? This was apparently a problem as mentioned by sfhub in post #15 in this thread.

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Sorry to be dense, but are the 0xFF and 0xEA codes appended to the string supposed to be alternated? For example, do I start with 0xFF and then use 0xEA, then 0xFF, etc., or is there a reason to start with one or the other? I understand the first three 2-bit segments, just not sure how to implement the fourth one. Thank you for your previous help, too.

To find the fourth number, subtract the command from 0xFF.

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Ah, thank you. I enjoy dabbling with this stuff, but am not my company's programmer (I have employees to do that ), so I am not as familiar with the inner workings of hexadecimal as some of you guys. I do understand where we are going with this though. Is it safe to assume that there is a checksum in the XA1 that needs to see the sum of the third and fourth codes always total to FF? That's what seems like must be happening.

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Here are the RS232 Serial Protocols for the XA-1 : [31 Door]

Thanks Mark,

After you verify that all works as expected, I'll put a copy of your post in my manual.

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PS. I can't help but wonder what happens when the RCA receives the "Door" command .
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mark or Trevor,
Am I on the right track with my question from post #20? Anybody?

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It certainly looks to be a checksum, but pretty pointless if you ask me as it unnecessarily complicates the process.

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Others have verified these codes work:

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It certainly looks to be a checksum, but pretty pointless if you ask me as it unnecessarily complicates the process.

Mark

On the other hand, if there's any possibility of receiving an incorrect byte and thereby having an undesirable result, then it certainly makes sense to provide at last minimal built in verification. Course, if the player is not able to report either error or success, it really puts a damper on error recovery .

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It certainly looks to be a checksum, but pretty pointless if you ask me as it unnecessarily complicates the process.

The serial and IR appear to share some processing. You get a lot more chance for bogus commands when dealing with IR thus the NEC1 IR protocol specifies that format.

The error handling is simple. It just discards.
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The serial and IR appear to share some processing. You get a lot more chance for bogus commands when dealing with IR thus the NEC1 IR protocol specifies that format.

The error handling is simple. It just discards.

Sure, the error handling at the player end is simple. The troublesome part is at the command issuer end!

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For those that don't want to take the time to figure the reversal code. Here is what I built. I will be using this today (also via an RTI remote) and will let you know if I get full success. any feedback would be great also. I'm assuming we need to add a carriage return, but do we also need a line feed?

ALSO ATTACHED IS THE DOCUMENT SO YOU CAN VIEW IT MORE EASILY.
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START CODE\tFUNCTION CODE\tREVERSE CODE\tCOMMAND\t COMBINED
0x45,0xB5,\t0x00,\t0xFF\tPAUSE/STEP\t0x45,0xB5,0x00,0xFF
0x45,0xB5,\t0x01,\t0xFE\t1\t 0x45,0xB5,0x01,0xFE
0x45,0xB5,\t0x02,\t0xFD\t2\t 0x45,0xB5,0x02,0xFD
0x45,0xB5,\t0x03,\t0xFC\t3\t 0x45,0xB5,0x03,0xFC
0x45,0xB5,\t0x04,\t0xFB\t4\t 0x45,0xB5,0x04,0xFB
0x45,0xB5,\t0x05,\t0xFA\t5\t 0x45,0xB5,0x05,0xFA
0x45,0xB5,\t0x06,\t0xF9\t6\t 0x45,0xB5,0x06,0xF9
0x45,0xB5,\t0x07,\t0xF8\t7\t 0x45,0xB5,0x07,0xF8
0x45,0xB5,\t0x08,\t0xF7\t8\t 0x45,0xB5,0x08,0xF7
0x45,0xB5,\t0x09,\t0xF6\t9\t 0x45,0xB5,0x09,0xF6
0x45,0xB5,\t0x0A,\t0xF5\t0 \t0x45,0xB5,0x0A,0xF5
0x45,0xB5,\t0x0D,\t0xF2\tSLOW \t0x45,0xB5,0x0D,0xF2
0x45,0xB5,\t0x12,\t0xED\tPOWER ON/STANDBY\t 0x45,0xB5,0x12,0xED
0x45,0xB5,\t0x13,\t0xEC\tFORWARD\t 0x45,0xB5,0x13,0xEC
0x45,0xB5,\t0x14,\t0xEB\tSTOP\t 0x45,0xB5,0x14,0xEB
0x45,0xB5,\t0x15,\t0xEA\tPLAY\t 0x45,0xB5,0x15,0xEA
0x45,0xB5,\t0x16,\t0xE9\tDISPLAY (NAVI) 0x45,0xB5,0x16,0xE9
0x45,0xB5,\t0x19,\t0xE6\tREVIEW\t 0x45,0xB5,0x19,0xE6
0x45,0xB5,\t0x1B,\t0xE4\tCANCEL\t 0x45,0xB5,0x1B,0xE4
0x45,0xB5,\t0x20,\t0xDF\tSETUP\t 0x45,0xB5,0x20,0xDF
0x45,0xB5,\t0x21,\t0xDE\tENTER\t 0x45,0xB5,0x21,0xDE
0x45,0xB5,\t0x22,\t0xDD\tRETURN\t 0x45,0xB5,0x22,0xDD
0x45,0xB5,\t0x23,\t0xDC\tSKIP BACK\t 0x45,0xB5,0x23,0xDC
0x45,0xB5,\t0x24,\t0xDB\tSKIP FORWARD 0x45,0xB5,0x24,0xDB
0x45,0xB5,\t0x25,\t0xDA\tPLUS 10 0x45,0xB5,0x25,0xDA
0x45,0xB5,\t0x26,\t0xD9\tT. SEARCH 0x45,0xB5,0x26,0xD9
0x45,0xB5,\t0x27,\t0xD8\tAUDIO\t 0x45,0xB5,0x27,0xD8
0x45,0xB5,\t0x28,\t0xD7\tSUBTITLE\t 0x45,0xB5,0x28,0xD7
0x45,0xB5,\t0x29,\t0xD6\tANGLE\t 0x45,0xB5,0x29,0xD6
0x45,0xB5,\t0x2B,\t0xD4\tREPEAT (VCR=PLAY MODE)\t 0x45,0xB5,0x2B,0xD4
0x45,0xB5,\t0x31,\t0xCE\tDOOR\t 0x45,0xB5,0x31,0xCE
0x45,0xB5,\t0x32,\t0xCD\tTAB\t 0x45,0xB5,0x32,0xCD
0x45,0xB5,\t0x33,\t0xCC\tCURSOR 0x45,0xB5,0x33,0xCC
0x45,0xB5,\t0x34,\t0xCB\tA\t 0x45,0xB5,0x34,0xCB
0x45,0xB5,\t0x35,\t0xCA\tB\t 0x45,0xB5,0x35,0xCA
0x45,0xB5,\t0x36,\t0xC9\tC\t 0x45,0xB5,0x36,0xC9
0x45,0xB5,\t0x37,\t0xC8\tD\t 0x45,0xB5,0x37,0xC8
0x45,0xB5,\t0x38,\t0xC7\tRETURN FROM MENU (RESUME)\t 0x45,0xB5,0x38,0xC7
0x45,0xB5,\t0x41,\t0xBE\tDIMMER \t0x45,0xB5,0x41,0xBE
0x45,0xB5,\t0x4D,\t0xB2\tRIGHT \t0x45,0xB5,0x4D,0xB2
0x45,0xB5,\t0x4E,\t0xB1\tI/P SELECTOR (RESOLUTION)\t 0x45,0xB5,0x4E,0xB1
0x45,0xB5,\t0x51,\t0xAE\tLEFT\t 0x45,0xB5,0x51,0xAE
0x45,0xB5,\t0x80,\t0x7F\tUP\t 0x45,0xB5,0x80,0x7F
0x45,0xB5,\t0x81,\t0x7E\tDOWN\t 0x45,0xB5,0x81,0x7E
0x45,0xB5,\t0x82,\t0x7D\tUPPER RIGHT\t0x45,0xB5,0x82,0x7D
0x45,0xB5,\t0x83,\t0x7C\tLOWER RIGHT\t0x45,0xB5,0x83,0x7C
0x45,0xB5,\t0x84,\t0x7B\tMENU\t 0x45,0xB5,0x84,0x7B
0x45,0xB5,\t0x85,\t0x7A\tLOWER LEFT\t0x45,0xB5,0x85,0x7A
0x45,0xB5,\t0x86,\t0x79\tUPPER RIGHT\t0x45,0xB5,0x86,0x79
0x45,0xB5,\t0x92,\t0x6D\tPOWER ON \t0x45,0xB5,0x92,0x6D
0x45,0xB5,\t0x93,\t0x6C\tPOWER OFF\t0x45,0xB5,0x93,0x6C
0x45,0xB5,\t0x9F,\t0x60\tHDMI\t 0x45,0xB5,0x9F,0x60
0x45,0xB5,\t0xDE,\t0x21\tTITLE (TOP MENU)\t0x45,0xB5,0xDE,0x21
0x45,0xB5,\t0xEF,\t0x10\tCLEAR\t0x45,0xB5,0xEF,0x10
0x45,0xB5,\t0xF5,\t0x0A\tOPEN/CLOSE\t0x45,0xB5,0xF5,0x0A

 

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I don't use CR or LF - simply the 4-hex command is sufficient.

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thank you for the heads up.
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