Originally Posted by generalleo
I've got a question about the Picture menu (not the one in the Setup menu but the one accessed by the Picture remote button). I hadn't tried it before now (very late to the party I guess), and when I opened it up, all the settings for the 3 slots were OFF or 0. After using various settings mentioned on the boards, I don't notice any significant difference in the picture quality on an SD DVD.
I don't notice really any difference at all when the movie is playing. If I pause the movie and scrutinize a frame by repeatedly going back and forth between a slot with everything off and a slot with the adjustments enabled, I can see the tiniest bit of difference, so I can't claim they're literally not working. But it simply isn't nearly as noticeable as what I've read some people say. I wonder if I have other settings wrong somewhere else.
In the player's Setup->Picture menu, I have enhanced black on, RGB output range enhanced, picture mode auto, resolution setting up to 1080p/24hz, framerate 1080p/24hz . I'm connected to the TV via HDMI cable. I'm on v4.0 firmware, if that would matter. TV is set to Dot by Dot and shows input as 1080p 24hz. Didn't know if any of those settings might be a problem when watching a SD DVD.
The picture looks quite satisfactory to me with these settings, it's just that I didn't know if the extra menu was supposed to be the main factor in the upconversion. I guess my main question is, is the upconversion already happening even without using this Picture menu? Sorry if that's a dumb question, but I am just not very savvy with this stuff. I've been watching all my SD DVDs on this player since I got it some time ago, so maybe my eyes are just adjusted to it if it's already doing something to the picture, and these extra Picture tweaks are supposed to be like icing on the cake.
Maybe my eyes just aren't very discerning or some DVDs work better than others with this menu. Since excellent SD upconversion is supposed to be one of this player's hallmarks, I wanted to double-check I'm not doing something wrong and missing out on it.
Thanks in advance.
This might help. I copied it from a thread on here somewhere:
Using the "Picture" button on the remote (top left, 3rd button down) a box comes up on the screen during playback. You have 3 settings that can be customized.
I used various setup discs to calibrate and found that turning contrast down to -4 outputted a contrast level that provides the greates detail without being overlybright and washing out detail. If you leave it at "0" then turning contrast down on the monitor will not restore the lost detail. You can turn it up at the monitor a couple of notches to restore brightness without losing detail.
Set brightness to 0 or no more than +1.
Edge Enhancement if turned on affects BOTH HD and SD playback.
The +2 setting makes an amazing difference on SD playback bringing out more sharpness and detail but on certain discs seems to add some graininess. Movies that have an extra clean transfer can look remarkable at the +2 setting, otherwise +1 is a good compromise, providing more detail but without adding grain.
On HD playback it also gives the picture more detail but also adds some grain. I've begun using the +1 setting as a default where some extra sharpness and detail are added but without adding graininess.
Noise Reduction (If turned on ONLY works on SD playback):
1) Mosquito NR - Use it. It removes the pinpoint fuzziness in SD picture giving a real smoothness to the picture.
2) Block NR - Smooths out the blocky looking artifacts from compression BUT can create an odd looking shifting artifact (hard to describe) on smaller objects in the picture. Once noticed, I found it to be quite annoying so I leave this one off.
3) Random NR) Clears up random noise they say. I leave it on and don't notice a difference one way or another.
Since there are 3 settings you can customize you can set them differently for different circumstances and easily cycle through them to pick the best one for the current situation. This player is really amazing.
The above suggestions are based on the necessity of having your monitor setup correctly; contrast, color, brightness, sharpness, etc. If your monitor is not setup right then adjustments on your player are pretty much meaningless.
Btw..you don't have to pause...you can change the settings on the fly and see the effects in realtime. I use these settings for problem dvd's (bad transfer)
Mosquito NR- on
Block NR- off (I don't like the effect)
Random NR- on
Everything else at default....makes a marginally bad dvd watchable on a HDTV