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InYourEyes 12-14-2006 09:57 AM

I see we don't have a thread for this yet, but how about we discuss our reports on the upcoming Toshiba HD-XA2. Mines is scheduled to deliver in two weeks. Let's have some feedback on the first 1080p HD-DVD player ever made.

Cheers!!!

markrubin 01-03-2007 09:02 AM

reopened: I hear some XA2's have been received

InYourEyes 01-03-2007 09:10 AM

I luckily found and bought a HD-XA2 today. The store I bought it from just got it this morning and only received five. I paid $999.99 plus tax for it ($1,080 total). I didn't get much time to play with it, but here are the specs.

1. Structure is very similar to the HD-A2, except in a different top cover and the nice aluminum door at the front.

2. Loading time appears to be two seconds faster with a HD-DVD disc than the HD-A2.

3. Feels three pounds heavier than the HD-A2.

4. Picture quality is slightly better in 1080i (not much difference at all) than the HD-A2.

It was hooked up with my Toshiba MW26H82 26" HD CRT TV/DVD/VCR combo. The TV doesn't accept 1080p resolution, so I'll let someone post another review.

Will get back to you guys later tonight.

DavidHir 01-03-2007 09:14 AM

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I would imagine it would be very difficult to tell the difference between these players on a 26" screen.

dad1153 01-03-2007 09:16 AM

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Originally Posted by InYourEyes View Post

I luckily found and bought a HD-XA2 today. The store I bought it from just got it this morning and only received five. I paid $999.99 plus tax for it ($1,080 total).

This is the AVS Forum equivalent of a religious person seeing the Virgin Mary on a toast (or a profile of Jesus in a spot of grease on the grill). It's a sign from above people, convert to HD-DVD or else!

markrubin 01-03-2007 09:21 AM

sticky

InYourEyes 01-03-2007 09:55 AM

Forgot to mention. My HD-XA2 is Made in China.

markrubin 01-03-2007 11:15 AM

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could we please limit posts to USER REPORTS on the XA-2


deez 01-03-2007 11:18 AM

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Originally Posted by markrubin View Post

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could we please limit posts to USER REPORTS on the XA-2


Yes!!

So anyone have it paired with a 1080p display?

Rambler358 01-03-2007 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by InYourEyes View Post

I luckily found and bought a HD-XA2 today. The store I bought it from just got it this morning and only received five.

Do you mind telling what store had it?

InYourEyes 01-03-2007 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Rambler358 View Post

Do you mind telling what store had it?

Fry's Electronics in Anaheim, CA. Not sure if they have anymore, so call before you go. Good luck.

Rambler358 01-03-2007 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by InYourEyes View Post

Fry's Electronics in Anaheim, CA. Not sure if they have anymore, so call before you go. Good luck.

Was just curious, I've actually already ordered mine from Robert @ VE and should have it this Friday.

Edward Klehr 01-03-2007 07:41 PM

Picked up the HD-XA2 tonight

Just to preface I am a big DVD collector that only recently starting getting AV equipment to boost the movie viewing experience. As a result may not know that many technical details but will try to make a few comments

Build: Not the armor plated HD-A1 but quite solid. Still a fairly large unit compared to the other DVD players that I have had. Slimmer then the A-1 with what I would call a typical height and fairly deep. Certainly much cooler looking then the A-1

Remote: Same style as the A-1 but much more responsive. Not exactly what I was expecting but an improvement. Better and more readable labels. Personally I do not really care for this style of directional control but maybe that is because I rarely play video games

SetUp: Screens are simular to the A-1 but with a few more options

StartUp: My times were about 30-35 seconds to the welcome screen and about 45 seconds to begin play of HD DVD[King Kong] from power on

Picture: On my 42 inch 1080p LCD I noticed an upgrade in picture over the A-1 via the HDMI output. More then I was expecting Detail and depth in King Kong seemed better to my eyes with more robust blacks

Audio: Functions differently over the analog outputs then the A-1. Hard to specify but the default base level is certainly different

Overall I am pretty pleased with this player so far. Note that in addition to the A-1 which I am now retiring I have the PS3 60 -- Ed

J y E 4Ever 01-03-2007 07:52 PM

Excellent looking player, feels solid and is rather wide.

I can only acheive 480p on my 50" 720p DVI only Samsung Plasma via my HDMI-DVI adapter coming out of the Onkyo 674 which then connects to the DVI input on the TV.

Yet I switch to the PS3 with the same connection and I can get 1080i.

I can't wait to purchase a 1080p HDMI Plasma or LCD and I might not even wait for HDMI 1.3, that's how much this DVI connection bothers me.

Oh well.

P.S. That is the longest Remote I have ever used! It's like a sword! Looks and feels good though.

HPforMe 01-03-2007 07:57 PM

If you have a digital camera please post pictures if you can.

gosawx 01-03-2007 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by J y E 4Ever View Post

Excellent looking player, feels solid and is rather wide.

I can only acheive 480p on my 50" 720p DVI only Samsung Plasma via my HDMI-DVI adapter coming out of the Onkyo 674 which then connects to the DVI input on the TV.

Yet I switch to the PS3 with the same connection and I can get 1080i.

I can't wait to purchase a 1080p HDMI Plasma or LCD and I might not even wait for HDMI 1.3, that's how much this DVI connection bothers me.

Oh well.

P.S. That is the longest Remote I have ever used! It's like a sword! Looks and feels good though.

Sorry if this is insulting...

Do you go into the menu of the HD-XA2 and ensure that the resolution is set propery...I think it's "up to 720p", or "1080i"?...

dlhoppe 01-03-2007 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by J y E 4Ever View Post

Excellent looking player, feels solid and is rather wide.

I can only acheive 480p on my 50" 720p DVI only Samsung Plasma via my HDMI-DVI adapter coming out of the Onkyo 674 which then connects to the DVI input on the TV.

Yet I switch to the PS3 with the same connection and I can get 1080i.

I can't wait to purchase a 1080p HDMI Plasma or LCD and I might not even wait for HDMI 1.3, that's how much this DVI connection bothers me.

Oh well.

P.S. That is the longest Remote I have ever used! It's like a sword! Looks and feels good though.

This might already be obvious to you, but did you try changing the video output setting to something higher than 480p?

Edward Klehr 01-03-2007 08:03 PM

Alas I do not have any means of digital photography

J y E 4Ever 01-03-2007 08:13 PM

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Originally Posted by gosawx View Post

Sorry if this is insulting...

Do you go into the menu of the HD-XA2 and ensure that the resolution is set propery...I think it's "up to 720p", or "1080i"?...

Not insulted, sometimes the basic things are overlooked.

I do have the setting to 1080i.

As Yoda would say, "Very unfortunate this is".

Will take pics tomorrow. It's a really sexy looking player and yes I just said sexy, sorry, but it is.

ac388 01-03-2007 08:15 PM

Made in China = $999
Made in Japan = $499

Something is wrong here. Is it possible that HQV chip worth that much more?

sharkshark 01-03-2007 08:30 PM

silly things to check for, you lucky XA2 owners:

1) HDMI>DVI conversion, they get the Studio/PC levels thing sorted out yet?
2) Any hiccups/audio skips/barfs?
3) Do the menus in AVIA line up correctly?
4) Do the CD and DVD layers of DualDiscs play? Does the player magically decode DVD-A?
5) Is there better bass/speaker management facilities in the audio setup?
6) Load times: Can we get standardized testing? for example:

a) time from pressing eject on a powered off machine 'till the tray opens
b) time from when the tray closes after pressing play to when the title screen comes on for HD
c) ditto, but for DVD

thanks ahead of time, kids...

J y E 4Ever 01-03-2007 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by sharkshark View Post

silly things to check for, you lucky XA2 owners:

1) HDMI>DVI conversion, they get the Studio/PC levels thing sorted out yet?
2) Any hiccups/audio skips/barfs?
3) Do the menus in AVIA line up correctly?
4) Do the CD and DVD layers of DualDiscs play? Does the player magically decode DVD-A?
5) Is there better bass/speaker management facilities in the audio setup?
6) Load times: Can we get standardized testing? for example:

a) time from pressing eject on a powered off machine 'till the tray opens
b) time from when the tray closes after pressing play to when the title screen comes on for HD
c) ditto, but for DVD

thanks ahead of time, kids...

As far as I can tell the load times on the XA2 are just as quick as I remember my XBOX 360 add on HD-DVD drive being. Seriously, after reading so many horror stories on how slow the first generation players were, I was pleasantly surprised with the quickness on the XA2! Excelsior!

Edward Klehr 01-03-2007 09:00 PM

Quote:
Originally Posted by sharkshark View Post

silly things to check for, you lucky XA2 owners:

1) HDMI>DVI conversion, they get the Studio/PC levels thing sorted out yet?
2) Any hiccups/audio skips/barfs?
3) Do the menus in AVIA line up correctly?
4) Do the CD and DVD layers of DualDiscs play? Does the player magically decode DVD-A?
5) Is there better bass/speaker management facilities in the audio setup?
6) Load times: Can we get standardized testing? for example:

a) time from pressing eject on a powered off machine 'till the tray opens
b) time from when the tray closes after pressing play to when the title screen comes on for HD
c) ditto, but for DVD

thanks ahead of time, kids...

So far no hiccups or audio skips of any kind. Only about 1 hour of movie play and testing with 3 movies but so far very encouraging. By this time my A-1 would have had some type of hiccup

Bass speaker management options in the audio set up appear to be the same as far as I can tell. The default bass level seems lower

There is a setup option for Twin Format Disc with HD DVD or DVD options that the A-1 did not have. I have no such disks to test

I do not use DVI

Will try and do more load time testing tomorrow when I have more play time

brogan2424 01-03-2007 09:10 PM

Picked up an XA2 tonite from VE (you're the man Robert & it was a pleasure meeting you Kosty) Have it hooked up through a Sony 5200ES receiver (via HDMI) going to a 42" 1080P Westinghouse...i've almost finished watching Serenity (HD-DVD) & the picture is phenomenal!! I have a XA1 hooked up to a Sony 60" SXRD & the Xbox 360 add-on already connected to the Westy...ive compared the add-on (hooked up w/VGA 1080P & component upconverted to 1080P through the 5200ES) & the XA2 (I have 2 copies of Serenity) w/some interesting results...as good as the add-on looked, the XA2 just beats the crap out of it...the picture is w/out a doubt brighter & sharper...really pops off the screen, more so than the add-on which i've been thrilled with (up until now, anyway) i'll try to do some more comparisons as soon as possible....just my initial reactions, but wow...i'm sitting here w/an ear to ear grin like some mental patient enjoying my new toy

motoman 01-03-2007 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by J y E 4Ever View Post

Excellent looking player, feels solid and is rather wide.

I can only acheive 480p on my 50" 720p DVI only Samsung Plasma via my HDMI-DVI adapter coming out of the Onkyo 674 which then connects to the DVI input on the TV.

Yet I switch to the PS3 with the same connection and I can get 1080i.

I can't wait to purchase a 1080p HDMI Plasma or LCD and I might not even wait for HDMI 1.3, that's how much this DVI connection bothers me.

Oh well.

P.S. That is the longest Remote I have ever used! It's like a sword! Looks and feels good though.

I think you have the same bug many A2 users have reported with HDMI>DVI setups. If you set the player to "up to 1080i" it will still default to 480p on some DVI equipped displays.

Jim

jasonDono 01-04-2007 03:21 AM

Can somebody please tell us how the XA2 handles fastforward and rewind? The A2 pauses first then does a choppy rewind then pauses again when play is resumed then there is no audio for a cople of seconds before normal play. I find it very annoying and am returning my A2 becasue of it. If this does not happen with the XA2, VE here I come! I know it might sound like a petty consideration, but it drives me crazy.

Thanks,
Jason

Kosty 01-04-2007 03:40 AM

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Originally Posted by brogan2424 View Post

Picked up an XA2 tonite from VE (you're the man Robert & it was a pleasure meeting you Costi) Have it hooked up through a Sony 5200ES receiver (via HDMI) going to a 42" 1080P Westinghouse...i've almost finished watching Serenity (HD-DVD) & the picture is phenomenal!! I have a XA1 hooked up to a Sony 60" SXRD & the Xbox 360 add-on already connected to the Westy...ive compared the add-on (hooked up w/VGA 1080P & component upconverted to 1080P through the 5200ES) & the XA2 (I have 2 copies of Serenity) w/some interesting results...as good as the add-on looked, the XA2 just beats the crap out of it...the picture is w/out a doubt brighter & sharper...really pops off the screen, more so than the add-on which i've been thrilled with (up until now, anyway) i'll try to do some more comparisons as soon as possible....just my initial reactions, but wow...i'm sitting here w/an ear to ear grin like some mental patient enjoying my new toy

Great to have met you at VE.

Have you tried the standard DVD upconversion yet? I am dying to hear about the Silicon Optix Reon HQV chips performance.

very very jealous of you guys

lastxbr960 01-04-2007 04:49 AM

Quote:
Originally Posted by brogan2424 View Post

Picked up an XA2 tonite from VE (you're the man Robert & it was a pleasure meeting you Costi) Have it hooked up through a Sony 5200ES receiver (via HDMI) going to a 42" 1080P Westinghouse...i've almost finished watching Serenity (HD-DVD) & the picture is phenomenal!! I have a XA1 hooked up to a Sony 60" SXRD & the Xbox 360 add-on already connected to the Westy...ive compared the add-on (hooked up w/VGA 1080P & component upconverted to 1080P through the 5200ES) & the XA2 (I have 2 copies of Serenity) w/some interesting results...as good as the add-on looked, the XA2 just beats the crap out of it...the picture is w/out a doubt brighter & sharper...really pops off the screen, more so than the add-on which i've been thrilled with (up until now, anyway) i'll try to do some more comparisons as soon as possible....just my initial reactions, but wow...i'm sitting here w/an ear to ear grin like some mental patient enjoying my new toy

Can you or someone else who has extra time in the future, compare 1080i thru component with the 360 addon vs the XA2 for HD and SD using a double layer DVD backup disk with out copy protection?
I am really more interested in SD and component output to see how the special DAC's work.
Thanks ahead of time.

bwclark 01-04-2007 07:11 AM

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Originally Posted by motoman View Post

I think you have the same bug many A2 users have reported with HDMI>DVI setups. If you set the player to "up to 1080i" it will still default to 480p on some DVI equipped displays.

Jim

So what will happen if I use an AVR as a switcher with the XA2 HDMI>HDMI on the AVR, and then HDMI>DVI to the HDTV (Panny 1080p)?

thehun 01-04-2007 07:44 AM

What's the load time on this.Can somone clock it?


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