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I was told it will be shipping by the end of this month. From LG direct not a third party source.
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Whoa that's a lot.
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They need to drop that price about three or four hundred
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Well depends what it's outputting. 1080p/24? HDMI 1.3?What are audio capabilities? It may well be worth it.
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That's good to hear the high price, because it will give HD-DVD more sales. And I highly doubt LG's player will offer better picture quality than Sony and Toshiba.
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That's good to hear the high price, because it will give HD-DVD more sales. And I highly doubt LG's player will offer better picture quality than Sony and Toshiba.

Definitely, and the possibility of TotalHD will make a dual-format player moot. On the other hand, at that price, there may definitely be no need to purchase any Blu-Ray player whatsoever, providing that it can demonstrate speed, top playback quality and features. In essence, any future Blu-Ray adopter can immediately be "format neutral" with a dual-format player. It will not, however, stop HD DVD players from selling, especially when you can get the A2 for about $399 and the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on for $199 or less.

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I am not surprised.... my goal was, if I end up and buy two players (have the A2 now) then I want to do it for under $800 combined "out the door".... I realize a combo "now in 2007" won't be $400.. but 1,200 + tax+shipping thus out the door (around $1350)... is of no interest to me.
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They need to drop that price about three or four hundred


exxxxxacccctlllly!!
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I've read that the HD-A2 will drop down to $299 in the near future too.

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Some are predicting that Duel players might be in the 700 buck range by next xmas season...............that might make things a little more interesting.
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I've read that the HD-A2 will drop down to $299 in the near future too.

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Wow, at that price, I can buy three HD-A2s and put one in every TV I have, thus ending my new DVD player purchase.
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Wow. To rich for my blood. If I didn't already have an HD-A1 (that works FLAWLESSLY, btw) I would seriously consider it. I like the idea of only using 1 input on my Denon, but I will be able to score a Samsung cheap enough, soon enough.

J6P won't even know this exists at that price.

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J6P won't even know this exists at that price.


Well you can call me a J6P and yes any player over $1,000 is just plan nuts.

My goal is to keep this forum under control lol and not let everyone spend all there money on just a dvd player.

JK about that but really spending anything close to a dvd player near $1,000 is just silly talk.
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I've read that the HD-A2 will drop down to $299 in the near future too.

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I heard this as well, but I think $399 will likely be the drop. But, you never know!

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^^^I would venture to say $399 msrp which will put it in wholesalers in the $250 - $325 range most likely. Just a guess of course.
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$1199 is WAYYYYYYYYYYYYY to much I was about to purchase tha A2 but wanted to wait to see what LG said at CES I may now purchase the A2.


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$1199 would be MSRP, so I would imagine within few months it will be selling for $999, probably less by summer when somebody else have one as well, like Lite-on.
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Id rather get 360 addon and PS3 for the same price

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I am not surprised.... my goal was, if I end up and buy two players (have the A2 now) then I want to do it for under $800 combined "out the door".... I realize a combo "now in 2007" won't be $400.. but 1,200 + tax+shipping thus out the door (around $1350)... is of no interest to me.

amen brother, not gonna be many sold at that price!
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I suspect the A2 will indeed drop to around $299 come April '07 or so.

I think this will be due to a less expensive optical OEM drive unit becoming available around that time.

Having looked at the guts of the A2, I'm pretty sure Toshiba can swing a total cost of around $100 for the whole thing, less the optical drive of course.

Should Toshiba source an internal HD-DVD drive for ~100-150 clams, they won't be subsidizing @ $299!

Btw, has anyone heard of blue-diode shortages lately, despite 1+ milling such devices having been sold in the last couple months? Me neither...

$299 +$499 PS3 20GB = $798.

BT100 needs to be available for less than that to compete since you're not getting a game console throw in for free. $1199? No way!
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RE: $1199 MSRP...

Considering that of the four currently available Blu-ray standalone players, two are HIGHER priced than the announced LG dual format player, then I would have to speculate that all this complaining from people about the $1199 price must be, you got it, bad news for Blu-ray.

If a majority of people think $1200 is too much for a player that plays ALL current HD disc content, then I would have to guess both Panasonic ($1300) and Pioneer ($1500) must be sucking hindtit trying to sell a (gold) brick that plays only half of the titles out there.
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Are you sure that's not the price for the BD-burner / HD-DVD drive (GGW-H10N) instead of the BH-100?

http://www.hometoys.com/news.php4?se...ew&id=16371351
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Are you sure that's not the price for the BD-burner / HD-DVD drive (GGW-H10N) instead of the BH-100?

http://www.hometoys.com/news.php4?se...ew&id=16371351

Wow. A blu ray r/w, hd dvd and dvd r/w. This interests me a lot.
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Are you sure that's not the price for the BD-burner / HD-DVD drive (GGW-H10N) instead of the BH-100?

http://www.hometoys.com/news.php4?se...ew&id=16371351

The Pioneer want even play all the BR disks much less HD DVD's for $1500.00. Neither wil the Sony.
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Heh as someone who's interested in both HD-DVD and BD it's kind of funny to look at the responses to this thread in the BD forum and this thread here. Over there the general sentiment is "oh cool that's about the same as the other BD players and for around the same price you can be format neutral." Here it's whoa 1200 bucks?? Who has 1200 bucks to drop on this thing?!?!

Sounds good for HD-DVD to me. People in the market for HD-DVD are unlikely to spend $800 extra to add BD, but people in the market for a standalone BD are more likely to be willing to spend about the same and add on HD-DVD though.

To me this seems like a no-brainer though. $1200 for a dual format player, or $1200 for a PS3, 360, and HD-DVD add-on? Gimme the PS3 and 360 any day of the week. And if you want to save $300 bucks...a PS3 and an A2 and you're still coming out way ahead.

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It's not a mainstream product just like the XA2 isn't or Sony's blu ray, or Pioneer, or Panasonic's. It will be a niche market until the price of blu ray and hd dvd comes further down. But if you ask me would I want this or an XA2 or any of the blu ray players and if I'm in the market for a higher end player this is a no brainer. Of course it also depends on the other specs.
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Seems like a reasonable price to me, given what the unit does, and it will drop in time.

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RE: $1199 MSRP...

Considering that of the four currently available Blu-ray standalone players, two are HIGHER priced than the announced LG dual format player, then I would have to speculate that all this complaining from people about the $1199 price must be, you got it, bad news for Blu-ray.

If a majority of people think $1200 is too much for a player that plays ALL current HD disc content, then I would have to guess both Panasonic ($1300) and Pioneer ($1500) must be sucking hindtit trying to sell a (gold) brick that plays only half of the titles out there.

Seriously. When did all the rich enthusiasts on these boards become so thrifty? Only two months ago - many here would have jumped at the mere idea of a dual format player for under $1200 like a cracked-out Bugs Bunny seeing a carrot for the first time. I mean people were acting like the Panasonic/Pioneer players were a bargain there for a while.

So when did all the rich enthusiasts on these boards become so thrifty? I suspect it's due to the same cause that Robert here suggested. WHEN HD DVD delivered the best product they could have imagined, over and over again, for months, with amazing players at low costs, while the only competition bumbled and fumbled around trying to catch up...

Wow, it's eye-opening really. Any given day you can see people making an argument as to who might win tomorrow based on yesterday - but I don't think anybody can deny that the amazing progress, quality, effort, and support HD DVD has set to the bar to SINCE LAUNCH - hasn't also created a quantum shift to heavy respect/appreciation for the HD DVD camp. This attitude/appreciation may be more unconscious for some (people who have been for BD but aren't blind) and totally clear for others (HD DVD fans who love the format to death)...but I don't think there's any denying that it is totally real.

Underdog status, consistent quality, great pricing, aggressive production practices, and Sony's arrogance/blundering have given us ALL this noted feeling. And I bet that it's something BD execs are praying that they could have now. I bet they know that such a thing could very well be the "X" factor that makes one format ultimately win despite have very similiar competition...

We shall see...
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Definitely, and the possibility of TotalHD will make a dual-format player moot. On the other hand, at that price, there may definitely be no need to purchase any Blu-Ray player whatsoever, providing that it can demonstrate speed, top playback quality and features. In essence, any future Blu-Ray adopter can immediately be "format neutral" with a dual-format player. It will not, however, stop HD DVD players from selling, especially when you can get the A2 for about $399 and the XBox 360 HD DVD add-on for $199 or less.

One more thought to add to the mix -- if this dual-format proves itself performance and feature wise, there is no real reason to purchase a similarly-priced Blu-Ray only player which will force other Blu-Ray only CE companies to scramble and do one of two things (or both) to remain competitive:

1. Drastically reduce the price of their current Blu-Ray models
2. Flush them out and introduce their own dual-format players

If they do not do one or both, their sales (as bad as they already are) will likely decrease even further. A possible third option is for them to introduce HD DVD players for the sub-$400 market. Either way, it looks like HD DVD has the upper hand here with their $399 and under players, and with dual-format player(s) entering the playing field this only broadens the HD DVD market. One would almost get a sense that there could be a 'phasing out' of Blu-Ray only players all together (with the exception perhaps of Sony, who would be forced to reduce their player well below the cost of any dual-format counterparts). The spin off of all this is increased sales of HD DVD movies.

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If a majority of people think $1200 is too much for a player that plays ALL current HD disc content

Yep. Too much for me anyway.

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then I would have to guess both Panasonic ($1300) and Pioneer ($1500) must be sucking hindtit trying to sell a (gold) brick that plays only half of the titles out there.

Yep. WAY too much for me, esp. for a mono-format player.
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