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post #31 of 42 Old 03-08-2007, 05:30 PM
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If so, absolutely genius move by Toshiba and HD-DVD camp . . . pretty much ensures that HD-DVD survives.

Yes and no.... region coding was something Fox specifically wanted and Disney was probably interested in it too. Notice those two studios are exclusive to Blu-Ray who does have region coding in their official specification but haven't chosen to implement it yet.

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Unless Sony IS WILLING to drop the price of the BD players to compete w/hd dvd (w/means, like Toshiba, they are going to have to sell them at loss for a while), the apparent availability of BR titles via import on HD DVD w/make me sweat big time if I was Sony marketing exec entrusted w/developing the BR market.

Actually, if I were that person, I'd be updating my resume about now.

Interesting stuff.
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Hi,

Filmax announces Underworld: Evolution HD DVD specs and box art

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Holy crap, its VC-1 as well. This may rivbal Sonys MPEG2 25GB offering. I may have to dump my BD copy for this HD DVD one
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So wait, you think because Samsung rebadges Toshiba laptops that this means Samsung's about to go neutral on ...movie formats?

So I suppose because Toshiba helped develop and produce components for the PS3, that means Toshiba's about to go neutral, too, huh? How about BD-backing NEC? Well, they produced drives for HD DVD's first generation, no?

Or Microsoft? I suppose they've gone neutral because VC1 is widely and favorably supported by the entire BD standard.

I mean, please. This thread is actually sadder than the "1/2 off sales mean BD is a big failure while giving away 5 discs for every HD DVD player while cutting 100 off the mainstream and 200 off the high end players a month after release means HD DVD's doing mind-bogglingly-well."

Please stop being desperate.

HD DVD has a lot going for it, but neither the, "We're too good for a 1/2 off sale" or the "Samsung's PC division makes one decision and that means Samsung's all in for HD DVD," really give good reasons for what is positive for HD DVD.

If you want combo, go buy the LG player and lose most of what is great about HD DVD (lossless audio 5.1, menus, full compatibility). Do you really want yet another Blu-ray player hacked to play HD DVD's poorly? By now, there's little point to that. Just buy yourself one of each.

So 1) Samsung's laptops mean nothing at all for its CE division and 2) even if it did, what good would there be to another hamstrung combo player?

I think this thread is pointless.
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This whole war is so FREAKING STUPID it makes my head spin!! I will buy the first reasonably priced unit that can do both formats. I hope one of the executives actually has this as his hobby and reads this on one of these forums.

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Sisko the point of a new combo player would be one that improves upon where the LG player falls short. I think people are already aware of the LG combo player's existence and inadequacies and are hoping for something better in the future.

Maybe your post is just as pointless as this thread?
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Me thinks so...

Samsung has to be realizing that Sony is screwing them over by blaming all the first generation Blu-Ray problems on them and then offering a Blu-Ray player (PS3) hundreds of dollars less than Samsung. Perhaps Samsung is testing the waters so they can start making some REAL profits with HD DVD. What do you think?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/...305034741.html


actually this is tecnically not Samsung's HD DVD device. They released the same notebook model with only HD DVD (read only) drive a while ago. This is just an upgrade to the HD DVD drive. Anyhow, we dont seriously consider Samsung as 'exclusive' BD backers anyway ..
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Holy crap, its VC-1 as well. This may rivbal Sonys MPEG2 25GB offering. I may have to dump my BD copy for this HD DVD one
-Evangelo2

That does it - I'm buying this disc just to run some PQ comparisons against Sony's own release. I'll wager that the VC1 HD DVD version blows away Sony's release...

If I'm going to pay this much money on HD releases, I want the very best quality available.
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So wait, you think because Samsung rebadges Toshiba laptops that this means Samsung's about to go neutral on ...movie formats?

Samsung builds their own laptops, just in case some didn't realize. This laptop is not the same as the Toshiba laptop released two years ago - one can check the pictures.

If that's the only argument, then one may be missing the point.
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If you want combo, go buy the LG player and lose most of what is great about HD DVD (lossless audio 5.1, menus, full compatibility). Do you really want yet another Blu-ray player hacked to play HD DVD's poorly? By now, there's little point to that. Just buy yourself one of each.

Hi,

I totally agree.
Perhaps the next attempt at a combo player will offer both performance and relative economy to those folks who feel they need to hedge their bets.

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I think this thread is pointless.

I respectfully disagree.
Whereas the premise of this thread might be a stretch, like most threads this one has some dubious points as well as some interesting bits of information.

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Same way I look at it. There a literarily almost 200 HD DVD movies available. I only have about 50, so I don't see the content shortage that everyone is crying about. I still have lots to buy.

My gripe is not so much qty. of movies available as to the quality. Right now there just aren't that many titles I care about offered in HD DVD.

Right now I only own one HD DVD (The Italian Job) and I have the three free ones coming from Toshiba.

There are a handful of titles I will acquire but as I tend to build my DVD library as new releases come out it is discouraging to see Casino Royale, T he Prestige, and other new movies I enjoyed in the theater and would have bought HD DVD's of not be offered in HD DVD. I think it is very shortsighted of studios to only issue their releases in one High Def format.
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My gripe is not so much qty. of movies available as to the quality. Right now there just aren't that many titles I care about offered in HD DVD.

Right now I only own one HD DVD (The Italian Job) and I have the three free ones coming from Toshiba.

There are a handful of titles I will acquire but as I tend to build my DVD library as new releases come out it is discouraging to see Casino Royale, T he Prestige, and other new movies I enjoyed in the theater and would have bought HD DVD's of not be offered in HD DVD. I think it is very shortsighted of studios to only issue their releases in one High Def format.


The Prestige is coming to HD-DVD in June from Warner Brothers in the UK.
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