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post #1 of 42 Old 03-05-2007, 05:42 PM - Thread Starter
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Me thinks so...

Samsung has to be realizing that Sony is screwing them over by blaming all the first generation Blu-Ray problems on them and then offering a Blu-Ray player (PS3) hundreds of dollars less than Samsung. Perhaps Samsung is testing the waters so they can start making some REAL profits with HD DVD. What do you think?

http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/mobile/...305034741.html
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sounds promising to me, id love to have a samsung HD-DVD player
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How come the article says that Universal supports Blew Ray?

Blu-ray disc is supported by Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures, Twentieth Century Fox , Universal Pictures, Walt Disney and Warner Bros.

In terms of LFE, size does matter!
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How come the article says that Universal supports Blew Ray?

Blu-ray disc is supported by Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures, Twentieth Century Fox , Universal Pictures, Walt Disney and Warner Bros.

The article is from the future...2008...
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The article is from the future...2008...

So, HDDVD isn't dead yet?
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How come the article says that Universal supports Blew Ray?

Blu-ray disc is supported by Paramount Pictures, Sony Pictures, Twentieth Century Fox , Universal Pictures, Walt Disney and Warner Bros.


Universal Music Studios is part of the Blu camp. This was brought up on engadget one day, but was promptly smacked down.

Not all BB employees are idiots...
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I posted a thread about this last week, but it did not draw any attention. It's all over the web now.

first it was The BR exclusive LG releasing an HD DVD/Blu-ray hybrid, now it's another BR exclusive CE company within months of CES '07 adding HD DVD to their arsenal.
Do you smell the power shift in the air?

I think fit is about to hit the shan.
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Do you smell the power shift in the air?

With this and Dreamworks coming out as neutral at the very least there's an equalizing of the field in favor of HD-DVD.
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How about this little tidbit...Liteon together with China manufacturer coming out with cheap HD-DVD players soon...The other little snippet is that Meridian might be coming out with a hi-end player too.

http://www.thisishddvd.com/hddvdhardware.aspx
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How about this little tidbit...Liteon together with China manufacturer coming out with cheap HD-DVD players soon...The other little snippet is that Meridian might be coming out with a hi-end player too.

http://www.thisishddvd.com/hddvdhardware.aspx

This is from Jan CES nothing new here.

Blu ray is the best Blah, blah, blah.
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oops...my bad.
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Do you smell the power shift in the air?

No, all I smell is people jumping ship from HD-DVD or having to import titles to get any half decent content.
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No, all I smell is people jumping ship from HD-DVD or having to import titles to get any half decent content.

Are you for HD DVD?

This post is UNECCESSARY.

Blu ray is the best Blah, blah, blah.
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this is just a laptop, people, not a standalone yet.
(although after getting thrown under the proverbial bus by Sony last year, eventual standalones wouldn't surprise me...)

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No, all I smell is people jumping ship from HD-DVD or having to import titles to get any half decent content.

That's 2 major BR backers going neutral in 2 months since CES. The only ship you should be worried about is the Blu-ship.
Besides we are ordering Sony pictures movies from Europe. Doesn't that make Sony format neutral as well? Go figure.

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[quote=Django]That's 2 major BR backers going neutral in 2 months since CES. The only ship you should be worried about is the Blu-ship.
Besides we are ordering Sony pictures movies from Europe. Doesn't that make Sony format neutral as well? Go figure.


Man I want some Underworld.........I hope every thing goes dual format ......it can only be a plus for us consumers!
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This thread needs more smurfs. Where have they all gone?
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Companies can smell money no matter what you might read around here.
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Samsung makes very good products from my experience. If Samsung was to make an HD DVD player and put it on the market for the same price as the Toshiba or a little less, things would change so fast it would be incredible. I, and I'm sure many others as well, would like to see both format exist side by side. I don't see the need for one to kill or dominate the other. Based on interactivity and PQ I prefer HD DVD cause I have an A2, bit if the price of BD player were below $400 I would probably consider a Blu-ray player as well.
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or a Samsung dual format player
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Can you really do this? How so?

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That's 2 major BR backers going neutral in 2 months since CES. The only ship you should be worried about is the Blu-ship.
Besides we are ordering Sony pictures movies from Europe. Doesn't that make Sony format neutral as well? Go figure.


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Can you really do this? How so?

Hi,

Filmax announces Underworld: Evolution HD DVD specs and box art

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Ok, this may sway me (I'm sitting on the proverbial fence right now) . . . does this mean that there's a low/med/high likelihood of some Blu-ray only releases (in the U.S.) being released as HD-DVD titles overseas? If so, can someone explain how or why this happens (assuming it has something to do with distribution rights) and how prevelant this could/might/should be -- understand that is a lot of speculating, but I'm asking for speculation. If this were to become a prevelant practice and I could get 50% of the titles I want via HD-DVD in the U.S. and get the remaining 40%-45% of titles via overseas outlets (still acknowledging that I wouldn't be able to get some titles), I think I could finally commit to HD-DVD.
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Yup, it's all about distribution rights. When the first HD DVD player shipped in Japan, it came with Resident Evil in the box...another Sony title.
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Yup, it's all about distribution rights. When the first HD DVD player shipped in Japan, it came with Resident Evil in the box...another Sony title.

I wil try to find that one online.
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http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/hd...fa2dd01fae8fdf

good place to buy Import HD DVD import titles. Some BluRay exclusives in there too.
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Your link is from an Aug. 2005 review...I hardly think this new Samsung is the same model!
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I would be very interested in a Samsung Combo Player. I have been very happy with my Samsung products in recent years. I personally couldn't beleive that Sony hung Samsung out to dry when Samsung came through and offered a Blu-ray player when nobody else did because they couldn't figure out how to make one work, then they blame Samsung for the issues.

I'm likely in the market for either the next gen LG combo player or I'll wait for a Samsung offering. I want one player that does it all and upconverts as well as my XA1. I'm in no real hurry to jump on the BD wagon.... they have more content, but HD-DVD has more content than I need right now, plus my XA1 upconversion quality is so good, I dont mind renting BD exclusives on SD for now. Heck... Crank, Borat, Pirates of the Carribean II, and Cars all looked excellent upconverted at 46". I laugh at all the people claiming HD-DVD is dead because of lack of content. There's tons of it! I don't have enough money to buy everything I want on HD-DVD.... let alone Blu-Ray too. I'm in no hurry..... everyone is screaming about when they will see Star Wars.... I saw it just last night in glorious HD without Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.

Anyway, I would be very happy to see Samsung offer a combo unit and I would be their target demographic. Go for it Sammy!

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I would be very interested in a Samsung Combo Player. I have been very happy with my Samsung products in recent years. I personally couldn't beleive that Sony hung Samsung out to dry when Samsung came through and offered a Blu-ray player when nobody else did because they couldn't figure out how to make one work, then they blame Samsung for the issues.

I'm likely in the market for either the next gen LG combo player or I'll wait for a Samsung offering. I want one player that does it all and upconverts as well as my XA1. I'm in no real hurry to jump on the BD wagon.... they have more content, but HD-DVD has more content than I need right now, plus my XA1 upconversion quality is so good, I dont mind renting BD exclusives on SD for now. Heck... Crank, Borat, Pirates of the Carribean II, and Cars all looked excellent upconverted at 46". I laugh at all the people claiming HD-DVD is dead because of lack of content. There's tons of it! I don't have enough money to buy everything I want on HD-DVD.... let alone Blu-Ray too. I'm in no hurry..... everyone is screaming about when they will see Star Wars.... I saw it just last night in glorious HD without Blu-Ray or HD-DVD.

Anyway, I would be very happy to see Samsung offer a combo unit and I would be their target demographic. Go for it Sammy!

Same way I look at it. There a literarily almost 200 HD DVD movies available. I only have about 50, so I don't see the content shortage that everyone is crying about. I still have lots to buy.
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http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/hd...fa2dd01fae8fdf

good place to buy Import HD DVD import titles. Some BluRay exclusives in there too.

D@mn, that's a great site . . . boy some of those are PRICE-EY!

Assuming I can get most of the Sony releases somewhere overseas, I think I may have just come down off the fence. Kinda' puts the format war in a different perspective, knowing that other markets such as Europe are (currently) favoring HD-DVD and that some (many?) U.S. Blu-ray discs are available as HD-DVD "over there". Begining to think that not region coding discs (by HD-DVD) had more to do with this issue than removing any sort of complexity. If so, absolutely genius move by Toshiba and HD-DVD camp . . . pretty much ensures that HD-DVD survives.
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