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post #571 of 590 Old 09-22-2007, 06:47 AM
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Amazon sells is for only $429, plus free shipping.

They also have a new GOLD model.

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR605...0474521&sr=1-3

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So do I need both this reciever and a HD DVD player with HDMI 1.3 to take advantage of lossless audio?
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So do I need both this reciever and a HD DVD player with HDMI 1.3 to take advantage of lossless audio?

this is a somewhat confusing issue, but i don't believe that's true. the HD DVD players all can decode Dolby TrueHD (lossless) and send the decoded audio as PCM to any receiver that can accept multi-channel PCM over HDMI (even pre 1.3) or via 5.1 analog outs.

the only reason you would need a HD DVD player with HDMI 1.3 and the Onkyo 605 receiver is if you wanted to send the bitstream (ie., non-decoded) Dolby TrueHD to the Onkyo and let the Onkyo decode it. audio-wise, this should sound exactly the same as the above. for the record, the only HD DVD players that will send bitstream audio over HDMI are the XA2 (with a future firmware update) and the upcoming A35, i believe. the upcoming Samsung dual-format player may as well, i'm not sure.

the only other issue is DTS-MA (the other lossless audio format), which no current HD DVD players decode in the player, although i don't believe there are any HD DVD discs that have a DTS-MA soundtrack yet either. if there are future releases with DTS-MA, you would have to have a not-currently-announced player that can decode DTS-MA, or a player that can send the DTS-MA bitstream to the Onkyo.

pretty simple, eh?

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All (or many) of the Studio Canal HD-DVD's have DTS-MA.
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Amazon sells is for only $429, plus free shipping.

They also have a new GOLD model.

http://www.amazon.com/Onkyo-TX-SR605...0474521&sr=1-3


Man, that is drop-dead-gorgeous!! I wonder if it's actually the CHAMPAIGN color available to the rest of the world and not to US???

If more of us valued food and cheer above hoarded gold, it would be a much merrier world.

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Out of curiosity, what listening mode do all of you use as your typical listening?
I keep mine on "Orchestra". Every once in a while I'll flip around as a test and I always end up on this one. Or do you use different settings for different shows/movies?
I don't bother.
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I use the source from them movie (I.e PCM) for all movies. With the listening modes in a movie, you will lose the true sound of the movie soundtrack (and maybe surround sound?)

At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it.

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The biggest problem with the 605 is the lack of pre-outs. This renders this particular model useless to me, I'd have to (at least) get the 705.
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The biggest problem with the 605 is the lack of pre-outs. This renders this particular model useless to me, I'd have to (at least) get the 705.

I would agree for a 5.1 system. For those that have invested in a full 7.1 setup, the 605 also lacks the ability to use the back surround speakers by layering 7.1 processing modes over the incoming 5.1 signals.

The 705 does this, and adds preouts.
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this is a somewhat confusing issue, but i don't believe that's true. the HD DVD players all can decode Dolby TrueHD (lossless) and send the decoded audio as PCM to any receiver that can accept multi-channel PCM over HDMI (even pre 1.3) or via 5.1 analog outs.

the only reason you would need a HD DVD player with HDMI 1.3 and the Onkyo 605 receiver is if you wanted to send the bitstream (ie., non-decoded) Dolby TrueHD to the Onkyo and let the Onkyo decode it. audio-wise, this should sound exactly the same as the above. for the record, the only HD DVD players that will send bitstream audio over HDMI are the XA2 (with a future firmware update) and the upcoming A35, i believe. the upcoming Samsung dual-format player may as well, i'm not sure.

the only other issue is DTS-MA (the other lossless audio format), which no current HD DVD players decode in the player, although i don't believe there are any HD DVD discs that have a DTS-MA soundtrack yet either. if there are future releases with DTS-MA, you would have to have a not-currently-announced player that can decode DTS-MA, or a player that can send the DTS-MA bitstream to the Onkyo.

pretty simple, eh?

thanks, that helps
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this is a somewhat confusing issue, but i don't believe that's true. the HD DVD players all can decode Dolby TrueHD (lossless) and send the decoded audio as PCM to any receiver that can accept multi-channel PCM over HDMI (even pre 1.3) or via 5.1 analog outs.

the only reason you would need a HD DVD player with HDMI 1.3 and the Onkyo 605 receiver is if you wanted to send the bitstream (ie., non-decoded) Dolby TrueHD to the Onkyo and let the Onkyo decode it. audio-wise, this should sound exactly the same as the above. for the record, the only HD DVD players that will send bitstream audio over HDMI are the XA2 (with a future firmware update) and the upcoming A35, i believe. the upcoming Samsung dual-format player may as well, i'm not sure.

the only other issue is DTS-MA (the other lossless audio format), which no current HD DVD players decode in the player, although i don't believe there are any HD DVD discs that have a DTS-MA soundtrack yet either. if there are future releases with DTS-MA, you would have to have a not-currently-announced player that can decode DTS-MA, or a player that can send the DTS-MA bitstream to the Onkyo.

pretty simple, eh?

Thanks for the info. What are some cheap(er) recievers that can receive PCM over HDMI?
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Guys, if you would look at my post #3410 on this thread, that would be great.

Basically, a problem getting video out of my new Onkyo 605. I'm sure it's an AVR issue but am going to post here and the PJ forum as well just in case anyone can help. TKS.
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Fixed, response in the same thread.
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My Onkyo HT-SP908 system will arrive today.

It comes packaged with the 605, DVD player, Ipod dock, and a 7.1 Onkyo speaker system with a 230W powered sub, designed specifically for HD DVD and BR movies.
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I have last year's 804 and LOVE it!!! I play it on "Pure Audio" that turns off all unused circuitry and plays directly from the source. It is a great feature for HD-DVD players.

I have the A1 and Yamaha HTR-5960 (no HDMI) 7.1 analog-ins are discrete with only level control, audio connection is via 5.1 analog from the A1 to HTR-5960 and sounds fantastic. HDMI directly from A1 to 65" RPCRT without any audio video sync issue.

Having HDMI only connection lets you get into "cheaper" HD DVD players and saves money on cables (if you don't have them).

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I have my A1 connected to a 7.1 speaker system via HDMI, as well as an Onkyo 605.
Whenever I watch HD DVD movies only the 2 fronts, the Center, the Woofer, and the 2 surround speakers work; the 2 back speakers do not (They only work on broadcast TV).

Is this normal? Is this happening because the player cannot output 7.1, and is set to only 5.1?
Or is there some adjustment that I could make?
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sounds like you HDMI audio settings in the player are incorrect. I have an A2 with this receiver with no problem. Might want to check out the A1 thread over in the HD DVD Players forum. I don't remember the exact settings and I'm not at home right now.

At no point in your rambling, incoherent post were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this forum is now dumber for having read it.

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sounds like you HDMI audio settings in the player are incorrect. I have an A2 with this receiver with no problem. Might want to check out the A1 thread over in the HD DVD Players forum. I don't remember the exact settings and I'm not at home right now.

Can't find that either.
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I have my A1 connected to a 7.1 speaker system via HDMI, as well as an Onkyo 605.
Whenever I watch HD DVD movies only the 2 fronts, the Center, the Woofer, and the 2 surround speakers work; the 2 back speakers do not (They only work on broadcast TV).

Is this normal? Is this happening because the player cannot output 7.1, and is set to only 5.1?
Or is there some adjustment that I could make?

Sorry!

The 605 with linear PCM input can not do DD PLIIx to drive the back channels of a 7.1 system. The Onkyo model 705 and up can do so.

The A1 will only send 5.1 channels of linear PCM over HDMI. It cannot do raw bitstream over HDMI since it is HDMI 1.1

The HD-A35 can do raw bitstream over HDMI 1.3a into your Onkyo 605. That will give you 7.1 channels if the title soundtrack was 7.1 -- hardly any are so, very rare at the moment.

So for 7.1 sound you need to change your AVR or your player.
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