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post #1 of 59 Old 08-07-2007, 09:28 AM - Thread Starter
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until holographic disc media becomes available to the general public. hehehehe
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My HD DVD player is getting a work out.

Keep bringing the good movies and I'll keep buying them.
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More appropriate thread for this forum.
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More appropriate thread for this forum.

I saw your other post. Too funny!

I would agree, until the next medium comes along. Afterall, technological advances never sleep.

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I find it funny how pro blu says "HD-DVD is Dead" despite the fact that many new players are comming and many new discs.
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I find it funny how pro blu says "HD-DVD is Dead" despite the fact that many new players are comming and many new discs.

Those are the weak minded who fell for Sony's Jedi Mind Trick.
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till downloads become the norm.
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till downloads become the norm.

Not sure about downloads. Personally I would never buy in unless I was allowed to burn a copy that I could then play anywhere anytime.

I know this is true for me because I have literally ordered 1 (ONE) PPV movie in like 5 years of having access to the service. Even in the last year or so when I could PVR it for multiple viewings I never bothered.

As silly as it sounds I am with the folks that want a disk on the shelf. Must be the collector in me.

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Agreed.

It's not going anywhere.

The price of entry and complete feature spec is key!
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For me i hardly ever make a purchase until i see the product. So a $3.00 download would be nice. It would be the exact same thing as renting without having to spend the money for gas or have to worry about late fees. Download it watch it then erase it for a new download. could be huge. the problem lies with content and browsing for the download. I find it nicer to walk through the store looking at movie covers and such then clicking through pages and having to wait for the graphics to load.

So we are in need of serious speed. Im not sure how long it would take to download a 1080 3 hour special edition movie not to mention the extras but i do think it would take more time then it takes me to go to the store and rent 9 flicks especially if the store is on my way home from work.

the other problem i face is remembering how much i rented that month. I dont even use pay-per-view with cable for this reason. If i spend the cash at the store its then gone. Im not getting a bill at the end of the month. Do i have 20.00 extra this week? yes. so i can use it to rent some flicks. If not i keep on driving.
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I have both BBOL and NF services right now, and a list of HD DVDs on each (except for anime). I see the format war hunkering down into the trenches, with Sony leading the PS3, and Toshiba leading the standalone players this time next year. It may stay that way, too, analogous to the PS3 and XBOX360 situation. In time, with dual-format players, the war will become irrelevant, and it will end with a wimper.
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I do think it will be around for a while...it is building momentum. The download stuff I feel is still a ways away, but as we all seen with MP3, it is on the way ( I used to like the idea of having a CD on the shelf, but now I am happy to have my Ipod with all my music on it).

Is it me or do I find more people viewing the HD DVD forums than the Blu-ray? Could this be a sign? Perhaps I just come on during Blu-ray camp nap time? I have notice for the last few weeks that more are in the HD DVD forums than the Blu-ray...Just an observation.
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HD-DVD ain't going no where baby! It will continue to defend its throne as the official successor to DVD. Those Persian invaders have no right.
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HD DVD gets more "viewing" than Blue-ray on this forum on a regular basis.
Right now as I type:

Blue-ray Players (97 viewing)
HD DVD Players (145 viewing)

Blue-ray software (162 viewing)
HD DVD software (219 viewing)

I have been looking at these numbers on this forum every day since
I purchased a Sony s300 Blue-ray player and a Toshiba A2 player.
I have not yet seen (in the last few weeks) more people viewing the Blue-ray
areas over the HD DVD areas of this forum. People are always viewing
HD DVD more than Blue-ray.
HD DVD seems far from getting over run by Blue-ray.
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I've only noted the last few weeks as I don't come on here very much. But every time I do...HD DVD viewers out number Blu. I kinda view it as a random sampling of what going on...thats all. But like I said before, just an observation
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Seems to me the HD DVD owners are more fanatical about their format than the BD owners They are the ones who are gonna keep the format alive for a long time by buying more players and software.
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Seems to me the HD DVD owners are more fanatical about their format than the BD owners They are the ones who are gonna keep the format alive for a long time by buying more players and software.

are you kidding?what do you think br side do ,buy potato?i buy and rent software like you.this does not make me a fanatic.i have the a1 and he is working great.i dont have a second player yet .
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Seems to me the HD DVD owners are more fanatical about their format than the BD owners

Surely you jest. Good lord, take a trip on the Blu side for about 15 minutes and you'll see that that statement couldn't be further from the truth.

In terms of LFE, size does matter!
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Originally Posted by thxave View Post

HD DVD gets more "viewing" than Blue-ray on this forum on a regular basis.
Right now as I type:

Blue-ray Players (97 viewing)
HD DVD Players (145 viewing)

Blue-ray software (162 viewing)
HD DVD software (219 viewing)

I have been looking at these numbers on this forum every day since
I purchased a Sony s300 Blue-ray player and a Toshiba A2 player.
I have not yet seen (in the last few weeks) more people viewing the Blue-ray
areas over the HD DVD areas of this forum. People are always viewing
HD DVD more than Blue-ray.
HD DVD seems far from getting over run by Blue-ray.


So you've been starring at those captions everyday for the past few weeks, bought a player, and never realized it's:

Blu-ray, and not Blue-ray?

59 Blu-rays and counting...
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I agree that HD DVD is here to stay. The PS3 does indeed give Blu-Ray a sales advantage at the moment and probably for the coming year. But as a player it is big and bulky. Many people here (the AVS Forum) are quite content to use the PS3 as their player, but the general public will prefer a dedicated player, and this is where Toshiba has established a true lead. I expect that over time the sales of HD DVDs will increase at a greater rate than will the sales of Blu-rays. It will be a slow increase, but it will occur, and people must not be too upset during weeks when something such as Spider-Man gives Blu-Ray a larger lead for a moment. I think by Christmas 2008 (not 2007!) it will be obvious that the HD DVD format is a success. Still, Blu-Ray is not going to go away either. I expect what some people consider the "worst outcome"--that both formats will survive.
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"So you've been starring at those captions everyday for the past few weeks, bought a player, and never realized it's:

Blu-ray, and not Blue-ray?"


Good one. I never noticed I did that. I don't type or post enough.


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Proliferation, a $10 word that means "get your stuff out there," is on HD DVD's side this year and I think that's going to ensure more people getting HD DVD players. In the next several months, we're going to have the second and third generation players out at the same time, and after you factor in the discounts on the soon to be older models, I bet the price range on six models of players will span from $180-$500.

These are extremely appealing prices, and the resulting increase in HD DVD ownership is going to warrant continuing support from studios and retailers for the format.

HD DVD is definitely not going away any time soon. After the installed base gets over a certain point, it's quite likely that HD DVD won't be going away at all!
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Just ordered my first hi-def player, an A20. Way less cash than a BD, plenty of great titles, and an upconverter that garners raves. I'll get a BD player when they become affordable. HD DVD was the way to get started.

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Originally Posted by hmurchison View Post

My HD DVD player is getting a work out.

Keep bringing the good movies and I'll keep buying them.

Ain't that the truth! My player is getting a work out too.
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Those are the weak minded who fell for Sony's Jedi Mind Trick.

Well I say everyone who bought anything to do with Blu-Ray fell into the Sony hype trick.

I don't really feel bad since it's common sense that spending anything close to $1,000 with no other cheaper options is just nuts!
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I find it funny how pro blu says "HD-DVD is Dead" despite the fact that many new players are comming and many new discs.

Then go and post False Crap like this!

"The ridiculous high definition format war rages on and today Toshiba of America announced three new HD-DVD players to hit retail stores in September. But don't get too excited just yet, the players are more of a let-down than an improvement, it seems.
The HD-A3 is a low-end player that offers 720p output - which in our view doesn't even qualify as high definition, really - for $299.99. Then there is the mid-level player HD-A30, offering 1080i video output for $399.99, followed by the high-end HD-A35 model which delivers 1080p output for $499.99. Woohoo!
Frankly, I find it ridiculous that any company would not only release players with anything less than 1080p video output, but to turn this deficiency into pricing tiers is almost berating. Selling half-assed high definition players certainly won't do the format any good, especially not if they are as overpriced as this. It will be interesting to see if Toshiba has finally gotten a grip on their boot times, a problem which a halfway decent software designer could have solved over a year ago."




The truth? Here it is
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I think both are here to stay. Both will remain too ingrained to ever be gotten rid of completely.
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Nothing wrong with optimism.....I'm an HD DVD investor too....

Gut feeling:

HD DVD 'wins' and becomes significant medium - 13%

BD wins and becomes significant medium - 27%

Both formats maintain status quo - 60% (and ultimately remain niche entities with insignificant market penetration and become the video equivalent of DVD-A/SACD)

My prediction FWIW......

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I have both formats...About 60 movies for each format...Unfortunately, I think in one year HD-DVD will be done. Caput!...
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