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post #1 of 17 Old 01-25-2008, 09:42 AM - Thread Starter
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Don't know if its the movie, the player, or the TV. I've got an A30, Panasonic 42px75u! It seems like some of the movies I watch are grainy. I know that the movie 300 is supposed look a little grainy. But I also watched The Kingdom and Harry Potter and they both looked a little grainy also. Is this normal?
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Some movies it is, it's usually about the quality of the transfer, watch Troy sometime, if it does not look fantasic to you, you might have a problem in the setup.

Not sure if the TV being maxed at 720p is part of the issue or not.
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Sometimes too much brightness or contrast can cause this. Have you calibrated your tv set?
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Sometimes too much brightness or contrast can cause this. Have you calibrated your tv set?

I second this statment. Exaggerated videos settings magnify these types of details.


Also, there will be a tiny bit of grain in most movies that you see. After all, film grain IS a part of film. The only things that lack grain are either digitally shot films (which sometimes have artificial grain added back to make it look real) or films that the grain has been removed digitally.

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I've only had the set for a few weeks so my settings are pretty low. I have the sharpness setting as low as it will go (-30), I've got the Picture setting a +5, the brightness at 0...
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I've only had the set for a few weeks so my settings are pretty low. I have the sharpness setting as low as it will go (-30), I've got the Picture setting a +5, the brightness at 0...

On every HDTV I've ever owned brightness==0 is too bright to be calibrated properly. To give you an idea, my set is calibrated right now and with brightness / 100 it's currently set at about 42.

The easiest (though arguably least accurate) calibration you can do is to get any Star Wars DVD and play it in your HD DVD player. Run the THX software and follow the picture calibration instructions.

It's not ideal, but it will get your set much closer to where it should be.

If you don't have a Star Wars DVD or you really want to calibrate your set properly, spend $25 or so on the Home Essentials HD DVD. I've seen them in a few best buys.
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We just watched Transformers HD-DVD on our new Toshiba HD-AX2 and had lots of visible grain during dark scenes where ambient light was present. Otherwise the rest of the video quality was stunning.

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Some movies are supposed to look grainny ... 300, for example, surprised me when I first played it on the HD-DVD player because it was very grainy. Then I remember that's how it was like at the theatre too ... they wanted to give it a 'comic book feel' and thus it's very grainy.

The Bourne series is another one that looks somewhat grainy. The director wanted to give it the 'documentary' feel ...

If "Happy feet" is grainy on your screen though, then something's wrong with your setup.

If you don't have a HT calibration disc, use the THX Optimizer the comes with some Lucasfilm movies (Indiana Jones, Star Wars, etc) to calibrate the brightness, contrast and sharpness.
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Goblet of fire has alot of grain in the beggining......alot!
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Make sure "sharpness" is set to zero.
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I totally agree that some movies have grain and some movies are crystal clear. The grain could be to lack/extra contrast ratio, so check that otherwise try a sharp movies like King Kong!
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To the OP:

Go to your tv's menu and turn off "Vivid" in your picture settings.

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I find most tv's have the contrast set too high,whites should look bright but not blooming.
Also turn down the backlight on LCD's,on my HDTV it helps cut down the grain.
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Grainy or NOT, give me the BEST transfer of the original film or re-master! HD DVD is beautiful with Grain!

One HD DVD that has gain and looks great is "Liar Liar" and fun flick too.

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Transformers is supposed to be grainy!!!

Back off man, I'm a scientist.
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OCEANS 13 might be the worst I have seen when it comes to grain,anyone else?
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Best thing to do is visit www.highdefdigest.com on you smartphone and read the review for your title, looking at 4 stars or above for video. I know they are not perfect but so far never had bad luck.

Innit amazing how true Chronicles of Riddick is, now it really shines in 24p and DD+ decoded in receiver. Had to add it just watched some scenes last night.
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