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Old 09-07-2007, 09:57 AM
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Is there a way to create a HD video file directly rather than create the HD-DVD files? My Buffalo DVD player can play a HD video file from my PC via network but it can't play a HD-DVD. I'm testing out doing slideshows that way.

Have you tried an WMV/HD disc in the Buffalo? Most commerical discs are DRMed with the evil Microsoft DRM, so they only work right on a PC, but you can get DRM-free WMV/HD discs from HD-Net. My IOData AVeL LinkPlayer2, a "super" red laser DVD player similar to the Buffalo, understands this format.

I've been making my own WMV/HD discs for about two years now, including dual format discs (HD and DVD content on the same disc... the IOData also understands that and asks which one you want to play). You can Google for the Microsoft spec page, but other than a $20,000 or so authoring tool from Sonic, you have to write these by hand. The video/audio is just a normal WMV file, but the navigation stuff is all HTML and Javascript.
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Does this app allow the use of WMV9/VC-1 or AVC video, rendered in another application, without re-rendering? That's needed to get real HD-DVD authoring on a red laser disc.

No, MF5 and MF6 only author with MPEG2 files. I don't know of any inexpensive (or otherwise) program that will allow you create a red laser disk from VC-1 or AVC files.

People keep on asking this question about the new codecs and keep on implying that a MPEG2 based disk is not a real HD DVD. Perhaps the name of the thread should be changed?

I thought what we're describing in this thread is how to create a HD DVD from material you've recorded. I believe that if you record the material yourself it will be in a MPEG2 format.

If you rip an HD DVD then the file will be in another format. If you downloaded the file, then it could be in another format. MF5/6 will need to re-render these files.

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The advantage of WMV/HD is that it plays on "advanced" red laser players, it plays on some blue-laser players...

Interesting! Which blue-lasers play them? I tried this some time ago and I know my Toshiba HD DVD player will not, and I know the XBox 360 will not. It would be great if I could find a player that did play them.

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Can anyone PLEASE CONFIRM IF AND HOW THEY PLAY HD PAL SOURCED MPEG MOVIES ON THE HD E1.
The only way I can get the European PAL player to play my HD PAL sourced, edited and authored on MF6 IS TO CONVERT TO NTSC.
I loose too much quality and gain a jumpy result.
Toshiba are aware of this problem and cannot commit to when a firmware patch will be available.
I have tried all sorts of pal to ntsc conversion without what I'd call a good results.
Help much appreciated as I'm looking at selling my hd e1 due to this ongoing problem.
Thanks.
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I don't know of any inexpensive (or otherwise) program that will allow you create a red laser disk from VC-1 or AVC files.

NERO 8 NeroVision 5
This is new BEST soft for authorinh HD DVD and BD
http://www.nero.com/enu/index.html
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NERO 8 NeroVision 5
This is new BEST soft for authorinh HD DVD and BD
http://www.nero.com/enu/index.html

Am I missing something? I downloaded the trial, but don't see any HDDVD-related options. There is just AVCHD.

EDIT: Looks it will let you burn to HDDVDs, but there is no HDDVD authoring support at all.
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my source files are hd PAL not vc1 nor avc but the HD E1 MUST HAVE NTSC HD MPEG2 SOURCED NOT PAL MPEG2.
I'm continuing to seek people that can assist with better pal to ntsc conversions via avisynth that the typical cce, procoder, tmpg etc that gives jumpy poor quality results.
My problem is this process including muxed audio, for me is not simple.
Help appreciated.
thanks.
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Am I missing something? I downloaded the trial, but don't see any HDDVD-related options. There is just AVCHD.

EDIT: Looks it will let you burn to HDDVDs, but there is no HDDVD authoring support at all.

Haven't tried it yet, but it looks like you have to buy the Blu Ray / HD DVD Plug-in.
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Nero 8 Ultra Edition
http://www.nero.com/enu/nero8-introduction.html

... High Definition format support
Xbox 360™ and PlayStation® 3
streaming features
Blu-ray Disc and HD DVD burning support
http://www.nero.com/enu/bluray-hddvd-video-plugin.html
http://www.nero.com/enu/multichannel-plugin.html
Play your favorite Blu-ray Discs and HD DVDs on your PC *
Experience true High Definition video with brilliant images in Full HD (1080p)
Enjoy outstanding audio quality up to 5.1 channels with Dolby® Digital True HD 5.1
Create HD video on Blu-ray Discs and HD DVDs and edit as you wish
Save time by modifying your authored Blu-ray and HD DVD videos right on the disc – no need to copy to another drive!
Record Blu-ray or HD DVD videos from your HDV or DV camcorder and customize it the way you like – add menus, playlists, etc., or just simply store in its raw, compressed format
Use highly interactive menus and other HD DVD advanced features throughout movie playback
This plug-in will enhance your Nero applications with the following technologies:
HD DVD-Video playback and authoring
Blu-ray Disc playback and authoring
MPEG-2 decoding/encoding**
VC-1 decoding
H.264 AVC decoding with AVC Film Grain
Dolby® Digital 5.1 decoding/encoding**
Dolby® Digital Plus 5.1 decoding
Dolby® TrueHD 5.1 decoding
DTS® Digital Surround 5.1 decoding
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** Also included in the retail version of Nero 8
* Blu-ray format supported is BD-AV (BD-RE 2.0 / BD-R 1.0). Authoring and editing support is available for BD-AV only.
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Please advise: I would like to get HD content on a non HD DVD that I can play on an HD DVD player.

I have a Sony CX7 camcorder which records in AVCHD format. I tried downloading Ulead 6 in an effort to do what Aaron was describing (burning to an ISO image), but Ulead 6 caused problems with my Vista Ultimate OS (COM surrogate not working), so I removed Ulead 6. I've got Sony Vegas and DVD Architect. I can use DVD architect to create SD DVDs but how do I do what Aaron is doing? I've also got Roxio on my computer. I am hesitant to use Nero because that has also been associated with the COM surrogate error.
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[1] Latest (8.2.8) NEROVision 5 givs option call:
Mini HD DVD-Video authoring and playback let You to get HD content on normal DVD that You can play on an HD DVD player.
http://www.nero.com/eng/nero8-latest-features.html

New Features Nero Vision 5.2.7
Implemented SmartEncoding for AVCHD
Implemented Mini HD DVD-Video authoring with DVD-R/RW media
Implemented authoring of the Blu-ray Disc Video format ‘BD-MV'
Improved text edit functions for Smart 3D menu templates
http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero...ase-notes.html

Don't forget about this plugin:
http://www.nero.com/eng/bluray-hddvd-video-plugin.html


[2]50HZ options for TOSHIBA will be add even tomorrow 31.12.2007.
We will see. They official promise this update on IFA Berlin 2007.
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[1] Latest (8.2.8) NEROVision 5 givs option call:
Mini HD DVD-Video authoring and playback let You to get HD content on normal DVD that You can play on an HD DVD player.
http://www.nero.com/eng/nero8-latest-features.html

New Features Nero Vision 5.2.7
Implemented SmartEncoding for AVCHD
Implemented Mini HD DVD-Video authoring with DVD-R/RW media
Implemented authoring of the Blu-ray Disc Video format ‘BD-MV'
Improved text edit functions for Smart 3D menu templates
http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero...ase-notes.html

Don't forget about this plugin:
http://www.nero.com/eng/bluray-hddvd-video-plugin.html


[2]50HZ options for TOSHIBA will be add even tomorrow 31.12.2007.
We will see. They official promise this update on IFA Berlin 2007.

Sounds nice, but there's no indication in the program of how to do this.

Edit: it's in the DVD project drop-down
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Please advise: I would like to get HD content on a non HD DVD that I can play on an HD DVD player.

I have a Sony CX7 camcorder which records in AVCHD format.

I also have the Sony CX7 camcorder, which records onto memory sticks...no internal hard drive or DVD storage.

I would like to know how to get the video files off of the memory stick and into Video Studio. I downloaded the trial version, but can't find where I can pull the raw file off the memory stick into Video Studio.

I read through the Video Studio documentation, but it only mentioned connecting via an IEEE-1394 cable. While inspecting the CX7 camera, there is a mini-HDMI connection and another A/V out female socket that is in the shape of a capital "D".

I would like to pull the memory stick out of the camera, insert it into my card reader, and import it into Video Studio. How do I do it?

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I found the answer to my own question in the Corel Support Knowledge Base:

To Import AVCHD Video from your HD Camera, follow these steps:

1. Launch VideoStudio 11.
2. Connect your camera to your computer via USB or Firewire cable, or insert your memory card in your card reader.
3. Once connected and recognized by your system, the camera will appear as a removable drive/mass storage device connected to your system, as will the card.
4. Select the Capture Tab in VideoStudio 11 and click on "Import DVD/DVD-VR"
5. In the "Select a DVD Title" Dialog box, press "Import DVD Folder..."
6. Browse to the removable drive that represents your camera or card,
7. Press the "+" symbol to display the subfolders, and select the "AVCHD" folder.
8. The "Import DVD" Screen will appear, select the clips to import by clicking in the check-box beside each clip number.
9. After the videos have been selected for import, press the import button at the bottom of this window.

Note : Depending on your system and the amount/size of the videos, step 9 can take a significant amount of time.
Your videos will now appear in your library in the top right-hand corner of your VideoStudio Editor interface, under the Video section of the drop-down menu. You can now drag these videos into your timeline or storyboards in the bottom half of the interface to continue with your video production.

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my source files are hd PAL not vc1 nor avc but the HD E1 MUST HAVE NTSC HD MPEG2 SOURCED NOT PAL MPEG2.
I'm continuing to seek people that can assist with better pal to ntsc conversions via avisynth that the typical cce, procoder, tmpg etc that gives jumpy poor quality results.
My problem is this process including muxed audio, for me is not simple.
Help appreciated.
thanks.

If the source material is PAL 25fps Progressive this works:

demux the pal material so you have a m2v (Video) file and an mp2/ac3 (Audio) file

re-encode the video to NTSC resolutions (when dealing with SD DVD) 720x480but dont change the frame rate, leave it at 25fps

Heres the clever part, use the free app "DGPulldown" to add pulldown flags to the 25fps video file you have just re-encoded. Before you ask, yeah i know it sounds crazy but it works.


The beauty of this approach is the audio will sync up perfectly as the video duration is still the same
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[1] Latest (8.2.8) NEROVision 5 givs option call:
Mini HD DVD-Video authoring and playback let You to get HD content on normal DVD that You can play on an HD DVD player.
http://www.nero.com/eng/nero8-latest-features.html

New Features Nero Vision 5.2.7
Implemented SmartEncoding for AVCHD
Implemented Mini HD DVD-Video authoring with DVD-R/RW media
Implemented authoring of the Blu-ray Disc Video format BD-MV'
Improved text edit functions for Smart 3D menu templates
http://www.nero.com/eng/support-nero...ase-notes.html

Don't forget about this plugin:
http://www.nero.com/eng/bluray-hddvd-video-plugin.html


[2]50HZ options for TOSHIBA will be add even tomorrow 31.12.2007.
We will see. They official promise this update on IFA Berlin 2007.

I tried this, and it works terrific. Burned to DL +R and it plays on my A3 like a champ! The A3 reads it as a HD-DVD.
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You've just got my attention !
I've spent almost a year now in trying to get a high quality hd pal to hd ntsc conversion for my hde1 to play 3x dvd.
Are you suggesting what you are doing does not require a frame rate conversion?
PLEASE TELL ME IT'S TRUE AND TELL ME MY HD E1 WILL PLAY IT.
If this is all true... well done and please tell the world how to do it... step by step.
thanks in advance
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You've just got my attention !
I've spent almost a year now in trying to get a high quality hd pal to hd ntsc conversion for my hde1 to play 3x dvd.
Are you suggesting what you are doing does not require a frame rate conversion?
PLEASE TELL ME IT'S TRUE AND TELL ME MY HD E1 WILL PLAY IT.
If this is all true... well done and please tell the world how to do it... step by step.
thanks in advance


the above method requires no framerate conversion. I tried it on the PAL SD DVD "Men in Tights" which was unavailable at the time in Region 1 NTSC.

Give it a go with HD, what have you got to loose? the price of a blank

If the material is 1920x1080 25fps and progressive then you wont even have to re-encode at all. Give DGpulldown" a try on the demuxed "progressive" video
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The latest Toshiba Laptop Cosmio G40 is equiped with Toshiba DVD Movie Writer software which is reported to support famous HD DVD REC option. Maybe it is reasonable to look for this very piece of software? Or it works only with Toshiba HD DVD drives? It would be nice to hear the owners of Cosmio G40.
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Can we create discs encoded in something other than mpeg2 yet?
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hi hdfruitcake.
I've tried the method you've outlined with dgpulldown to "redo" the flags.
Yes, it does allow the HD PAL content to be imported into MF6.
From there, with MF6 project set to NTSC (since this is unfortunately the only HD source that the HD E1 will play, the option comes up to alter the project settings to smart render.)
From here, I select smartrender (otherwise I suppose it would convert the PAL TO NTSC), and away to final disc goes.
All looks fine until the HDE1 plays the result.
Final quality is very jumpy, being a bit worse than the normally converted pal to ntsc sources that I've used.
The jumpy result is not caused by the disk type I don't believe as when this occurs, the jumpiness is much more speedy.
Ideas or other comments appreciated.
thanks.
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50HZ options for TOSHIBA will be add even tomorrow 31.12.2007.
We will see. They official promise this update on IFA Berlin 2007.

Quality HD content (concerts, balet, opera, music show) from Europe must be slowdowned from 25p to 23,976xxxxx
to be placed on HDDVD

Instead to watch "Planet Earth" in original 1080p25 people have 23,976xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

I know one producer who have desire release music shows 1080p25 on HDDVD (3xDVD) but he very sceptic about conversion original 25p to 23,976xxxxxxxxxxxxx with degradation of music quality.
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That old Roddy Piper/Meg Foster movie is one of my favorite guilty pleasures.
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hi hdfruitcake.
I've tried the method you've outlined with dgpulldown to "redo" the flags.
Yes, it does allow the HD PAL content to be imported into MF6.
From there, with MF6 project set to NTSC (since this is unfortunately the only HD source that the HD E1 will play, the option comes up to alter the project settings to smart render.)
From here, I select smartrender (otherwise I suppose it would convert the PAL TO NTSC), and away to final disc goes.
All looks fine until the HDE1 plays the result.
Final quality is very jumpy, being a bit worse than the normally converted pal to ntsc sources that I've used.
The jumpy result is not caused by the disk type I don't believe as when this occurs, the jumpiness is much more speedy.
Ideas or other comments appreciated.
thanks.

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Time to explore this option.
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Can we create discs encoded in something other than mpeg2 yet?


Good Question! I'm ready to buy Nero and the plugin if it can do 720p H264 (in matroska) to mini DVD-R (with the same soundtrack from the mkv) and play it on my HD-DVD player... I downloaded the trial but it seems you can't trial the mini hd-dvd features (at least not that I can figure out)... and I'm not ready to shell out the cash unless I know it can do what I want!
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"They Live" not movie is reality in my country...
TV and media under aliens control...

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Good Question! I'm ready to buy Nero and the plugin if it can do 720p H264 (in matroska) to mini DVD-R (with the same soundtrack from the mkv) and play it on my HD-DVD player... I downloaded the trial but it seems you can't trial the mini hd-dvd features (at least not that I can figure out)... and I'm not ready to shell out the cash unless I know it can do what I want!

No, you cannot. Only 1920x1080 and 1440x1080. Either MPEG2 or MPEG4 is available. No DD+ either, only plain DD.
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It is strange that lowest bitrate of mini HD DVD in Nero 8 is restricted to 15000. That makes this format almost useless for copying full-length films to DVD DL. Most of HD TV channels have bitrates from 8000 to 12000 (MPEG 4) and quite a descent picture quality. So if Nero would allow to make mini HD DVDs with bitrates al least starting from 10000, it'd became a really convenient and the cheapest way to save HD content. Moreover, it'd give a real advantage in the contest with BR. Don't really understand why Toshiba stopped/postponed introducing HD Rec specification into soft- and hardware.
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It is strange that lowest bitrate of mini HD DVD in Nero 8 is restricted to 15000. That makes this format almost useless for copying full-length films to DVD DL. Most of HD TV channels have bitrates from 8000 to 12000 (MPEG 4) and quite a descent picture quality. So if Nero would allow to make mini HD DVDs with bitrates al least starting from 10000, it'd became a really convenient and the cheapest way to save HD content. Moreover, it'd give a real advantage in the contest with BR. Don't really understand why Toshiba stopped/postponed introducing HD Rec specification into soft- and hardware.

Yes, I agree it is odd that you cannot control the bitrates better. Why not allow us to assign any bitrate we want?

However, I didn't know that any US stations were broadcasting MPEG4. As far as I know, they're all doing MPEG2 and at the bitrates you're talking about they all look terrible. The 720P stations can get away with slightly lower bitrates, but the 1080I stations need as high as possible. At 16000 they start to look OK, but still have lots of obvious problems. At 19000 most of the problems are minimal, but still show up in live, action sports.
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Is there any program that support HD DVD encoding with 23,976 fps or 24 fps.

Since I shoot in 25P, convert to 29,97 is not an option. But 23,976 is.
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