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Number 1 thing about The Thing - the aspect ratio is marked on the packaging and the disk as 1.85:1. This was a serious worry to me. Happily the film is in the correct AR - CinemaScope (2.35:1) - don't let the labeling on the disk fool you. It has not been cropped. Nice detail and colors, not muted or soft, not over-processed. Very little noise in the image. Soundtrack is very good. I have watched the Collectors Edition many times, and the HD-DVD version is well worth the cost. Looks like it might have the same commentary track with Russell and Carpenter, and the same Making of - nothing new there are far as I can tell, but I have not watched the extras yet.
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I just ordered this along with Corpse Bride using Google checkout at Bestprices.com

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Agreed, excellent disc for a terrific movie!
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the thing is fantastic!! just quickly scanned through chapters and this is one good looking disc.
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Oh thank God!

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It's correct OAR and decent enough looking, but I wouldn't put it into tier 1 that's for sure. The extras are the same from what I recall from the DVD and comparing the jackets.

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I watched this HD DVD last night (got it from Netflix):

the difference over the SD disc is impressive: so much more detail and better PQ

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How does the picture and sound quality compare to the collector's edition standard DVD? I know it has the same extras...

The very first DVD I bought back in '99 was The Thing (the nonanamorphic version).
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I just scanned through it last night. The good news is that yes, it's much better than either SD version. Much more detail and depth. The bad news is that it's not a Tier 1 release. The Thing is one of my favorite films of all time and I've seen it at least a dozen times, probably more. I can't help but be a little dissapointed that it's not a reference disc, or even really close to one, but on the other hand I love having it in HD and the quality is good.
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Damn, my local stores didn't have this movie.

I'll have to go HD DVD hunting yet again this week.
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I watched this HD DVD last night (got it from Netflix):

the difference over the SD disc is impressive: so much more detail and better PQ

I agree! I watched "The Thing" last night, and thought the PQ was very sharp and detailed. I always thought the standard version had too much of a muddy orangy look to it. In fact, I never noticed the character "Doc" wearing a nose ring before, now that's what high definition is all about!

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So, is this the first HD-DVD with the wrong aspect ratio on the packaging? I'm not aware of any others.
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Looks like it might have the same commentary track with Russell and Carpenter, and the same Making of - nothing new there are far as I can tell, but I have not watched the extras yet.

"The Thing" commentary is my favorite part of this disc, because it's a fun commentary for a very scarey movie. Russell's constant giggling cracks me up every time.

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..The packaging is unfortunately of a new weak material with a troublesome snapper construction...
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This movie has exceptional PQ for a 20+ year old film. Excellent transfer.

Terrific detail for a movie with many dimly lit scenes.

I rate it a Tier 2 movie.

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..The packaging is unfortunately of a new weak material with a troublesome snapper construction...

Yeah, down with the crappy new cases with the "snapper" latch!!! Go back to the simpler WHV-style case!

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Number 1 thing about The Thing - the aspect ratio is marked on the packaging and the disk as 1.85:1. This was a serious worry to me. Happily the film is in the correct AR - CinemaScope (2.35:1) - don't let the labeling on the disk fool you. It has not been cropped.

Why is this a good thing? Why can't a widescreen movie fill my widescreen TV?

I'm just kidding.
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We watched this last night and I wasn't that impressed. It did look better than the SD version, but definitely falls in the Tier 3 category for me. Sound was not that good either. Sound effects were rather weak, compared to other discs of the same genre.
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I watched my copy last night too (well, parts of it) and I am very happy with the transfer and sound. I saw colors, details and depth Ive never seen before in this movie, and I have seen it at least a dozen times (I have both SDDVD issues).
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I just received my copy from amazon and I am very impressed! Excellent looking disc - better quality than I ever thought I'd see on an older, dimly-lit film without a huge budget. This is one of my favorites, and it definitely is impressive. I guess if you expect it to look like Batman Begins you'll be disappointed!
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"The Thing" commentary is my favorite part of this disc, because it's a fun commentary for a very scarey movie. Russell's constant giggling cracks me up every time.

Carpenter/Russell comentaries are great. The one on Escape From New York is very entertaining, also.
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Another weird thing, excuse the pun, about this package is it lists a standard 480i/p version as part of the contents. Yet, the sticker on the front says for HD players only.

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Another weird thing, excuse the pun, about this package is it lists a standard 480i/p version as part of the contents. Yet, the sticker on the front says for HD players only.

I think what they mean is that even though it's 480i/p, it won't play in a DVD player. My guess anyway. This was supposed to be a combo based on original cover art, etc. that I saw. SOOOOO glad that it's not. That might also have something to do with it.

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I agree! I watched "The Thing" last night, and thought the PQ was very sharp and detailed. I always thought the standard version had too much of a muddy orangy look to it. In fact, I never noticed the character "Doc" wearing a nose ring before, now that's what high definition is all about!

I noticed that nose ring for the first time too!!! I love this movie more every time that I watch it and am glad that it's out on HD-DVD (I gave my SD-DVD SE copy away to family). Still, I'd only give it a tier 2 vote. Lot of scenes that are either mostly white or too dark to have much 3D effect.

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"The Thing" commentary is my favorite part of this disc, because it's a fun commentary for a very scarey movie. Russell's constant giggling cracks me up every time.

Funny that you mention that, I was thinking the same thing. HD DVD truly does deliver the goods!
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Same here. Just finished it and it was the first time I've ever noticed Doc's nose ring. Decent transfer and ok sound too...

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Same here. Just finished it and it was the first time I've ever noticed Doc's nose ring. Decent transfer and ok sound too...

Geez, same with the wife and myself, we had never seen the nose ring before!! Great transfer, the softness on some shots is just the way it was shot, the transfer is GREAT.

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This film was shot anamorphic in Panavision and has a very shallow depth of field. Many scenes may appear to lack detail because much of the foreground/background is out of focus. You can see this in the many scenes where there are characters in a circle or arc and the camera pans from one to the next - very tough shots to do with anamorphic photography. The things that I notice as being much better in the HD version vs the SD Collectors Edition are: SD has significant edge enhancement, you can really notice this in shots of the camp that show the polls, and just in general there are EE halos everywhere. SD scenes of snow are just a blur of mpeg noise, in the HD version, you see snow. Something is wrong with the color balance and the black and white levels on the SD version - the whites are blown out and blacks are crushed. In the HD version the flares have just the right amount of peak white and the blacks have good detail where it is useful (some of the dark scenes are crushed, but I think this is intentional - you are supposed to feel claustrophobic paranoia - where is the monster?). As to the audio track, it is 20+ years old, and I think it sounds great - no hiss, no pops, clear and present. The soundtrack is tilted towards the front, but that is typical for that era. Ennio Morricone musical soundtracks are always a joy. I am very happy with the HD version.
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As to the audio track, it is 20+ years old, and I think it sounds great - no hiss, no pops, clear and present. The soundtrack is tilted towards the front, but that is typical for that era.

Not so, at least as far as the laserdisc 5.1 track demonstrates. Most viewers of the HD version have mentioned the weak or inactive surrounds on this title and that the audio is front heavy. I'll be getting this title anyway, but the audio downgrade will be a disappointment.
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Watched this last night for Halloween. Freaking spectacular! This is yet another one of my favorite movies to come to HD-DVD and at a level of quality beyond my expectations. I don't understand how anyone can be down on HD-DVD when it delivers movies that look like this. HD-DVD wins again!

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