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Just bought a Toshiba HD-A2 and been stunned by the PQ on HD-DVD. However, I am a bit frustrated on the availability of new releases on HD-DVD. I have Netflix and seems like 90% of the new releases are coming out in Blu-ray only!!@%#! What gives? Did I choose a wrong format?
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Time will tell.

It is a bit frustrating that these few months are going to be lean.


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Right now, yeah.

Ball is in Universal's court. If we see a steady increase over the next few months, we'll know they are serious. If we get to April/May and they're still rinky-dinking around with 1 or 2 new releases a week with only vague plans for the future, we know the format is dead.

Find it hard to believe it would come to that. I'm pretty confident it'll pick up before long.

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Man we see these posts every day now .......patience is the key there are 50 announced titles already and more then 50 left for the rest of the year.....would you rather have a quality release or the quantity of releases...BR is "flooding" the market it seems to try to say hey look we have more, but ya know what 60% of our moviea re crap but we have more........Same could be said for HD-DVD everyone needs to be patient with the releases just becasue thyer are not announced does NOT mean they are not coming. You never know when you will get suprised with releases as HD-DVD releases have been only announced a short time before they are released. Sure it seem NOW that there is a shortage but look at it this way for the past year or so HD-DVD had a head start and was putting out releases before BluRay so take a break enjoy what we have to choose from and the future releases (especially some of the international releases where we can get US BluRay exclusive titles.)
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It's best to have both formats. However, at the moment Blu-Ray has got almost all of the movies that I've been interested in.

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It should definitely signal something when you're waiting on pins and needles for one company to announce release dates. What was that saying about "putting all your eggs in one basket"?
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Well, Layer Cake is coming on Blu-ray March 13. So I guess they did get the cake.

No way to afford a 20GB PS3? Tax refund time is here.
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I would highly recommend someone to look at what is available before you go out and buy a player. For me personally the ratio of titles I like are 75:23 in favor of HD DVD.

36 are Universal titles.

Go with the format you feel has the titles you like. You can always buy both formats down the road.....
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Man we see these posts every day now .......patience is the key there are 50 announced titles already and more then 50 left for the rest of the year.....would you rather have a quality release or the quantity of releases...BR is "flooding" the market it seems to try to say hey look we have more, but ya know what 60% of our moviea re crap but we have more

I said it elsewhere. F--- patience. "Patience" is what will get this format killed deader than a graveyard. Blu-Ray is pouring new titles out left and right, and has managed to do so in less time than HD-DVD. "Would I rather have a quality release or the quantity?" One isn't proportionate to the other: while HD-DVD's PQ is often slightly better, it's not a difference-maker compared to the sheer numbers the other format offers.

Blu-Ray says "60% of our movies are crap but we have more?" You can't keep a straight face and tell me that Half-Baked, Beerfest, and The Wicker Man (this week's ENTIRE launch lineup) is quality filmmaking.


It is VERY clear that Sony has a fire under its ass as far as Blu-Ray goes. It can NOT afford to lose this format war. They're fighting like their existence depends on it, because at least a part of it does. Hell no I'll never buy a PS3, the system is a joke and the game lineup is pathetic; there's nothing they offer that the 360 won't match or surpass, and the Wii runs circles around it in terms of universal/pick-up-and-play appeal. However, I have zero qualms about buying a Blu-Ray player...once the price is reasonable.

Universal and to a lesser extent Toshiba have a totally lax attitude and don't seem to care. Hope they start to soon, because I'm not going to wait around much longer for them to do so.

I love the HD-DVD format like crazy, but this is really annoying. I guess we only hurt the ones we love, or whatever.

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Well, Layer Cake is coming on Blu-ray March 13. So I guess they did get the cake.

No way to afford a 20GB PS3? Tax refund time is here.

I don't think it's a matter of afford, it's a matter of finding a 20GB one.
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I got HD-DVD Player about 2-weeks back and happened to get PS3 yesterday as most new releases are coming on PS3. I wanted to wait on my Blu-Ray player purchase till Casino Royale release date but what the heck! I gave up when I saw a PS3 in stock FINALLY!

If you love HD and want to enjoy it fully you have but only one choice. Get both formats! Who cares who wins the war!

It doesn't make sense to hate one format and love another. The only reason to stick with one format is if one can't afford to buy players from both format. In that case, check which format content is widely available to buy/rent and decide.

Sooner or later one will be hooked to HD and will surely give into the other format as well.
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I somewhat agree. During the lull period, I picked up a PS3 and I've got to say for the most part I've been very pleased with what I'm seeing on Blu-ray.

While I'm still rooting for HD DVD in the long rung, I think it has better interactivity features, and when Toshiba does speak up I like the way they present themselves far better than Sony. But ...Toshiba needs to get it's act together and recruit more studios. The current studios also need to release more "A" list titles or it will soon be over for HD-DVD. The humble, silent approach to marketing is only going to take them so far.
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I love HD DVD. But maybe I'm getting a PS3 as Weel. Then I will continue to buy HD DVD Discs and rent Blu-Ray stuff (will not purchase them!).

So I can hurt Blu-Ray and Sony and help HD DVD. And I have not to wait for all that good HD stuff out there.
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I said it elsewhere. F--- patience. "Patience" is what will get this format killed deader than a graveyard. Blu-Ray is pouring new titles out left and right, and has managed to do so in less time than HD-DVD. "Would I rather have a quality release or the quantity?" One isn't proportionate to the other: while HD-DVD's PQ is often slightly better, it's not a difference-maker compared to the sheer numbers the other format offers.

Blu-Ray says "60% of our movies are crap but we have more?" You can't keep a straight face and tell me that Half-Baked, Beerfest, and The Wicker Man (this week's ENTIRE launch lineup) is quality filmmaking.


It is VERY clear that Sony has a fire under its ass as far as Blu-Ray goes. It can NOT afford to lose this format war. They're fighting like their existence depends on it, because at least a part of it does. Hell no I'll never buy a PS3, the system is a joke and the game lineup is pathetic; there's nothing they offer that the 360 won't match or surpass, and the Wii runs circles around it in terms of universal/pick-up-and-play appeal. However, I have zero qualms about buying a Blu-Ray player...once the price is reasonable.

Universal and to a lesser extent Toshiba have a totally lax attitude and don't seem to care. Hope they start to soon, because I'm not going to wait around much longer for them to do so.

I love the HD-DVD format like crazy, but this is really annoying. I guess we only hurt the ones we love, or whatever.

THe comment about the quality of releases was an overall statement as BOTH sides have total CRAP movies that they have put out and ARE going to put out. I mean really if peopel are unhappy with HD-DVD and the way it is going who is stopping them from leaving. We do have choices in this day and age as consumers. Speak with your wallet it is usually hte most powerfull statement you can make. persoanlly I think it is WAY to early in the game to say anyting on either side of the fence. I mean we still are in JANUARY what about the other 11 months? The best stance in this day and time would be NEUTRAL to get the best of both worlds (when a dual format player comes out that supports both FULLY I will jump at it, since both sides have dug trenches and dont want to budge. I am willing to wait though as there are still MANY movies that I want comming to HD-DVd in the future (both here and abroad). Its just my opinion though that patence is Key for HD-DVD others as you cna see dont feel the same way and I dont force them too, was just an opinion piece.
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I don't believe you picked the wrong format, I think that sony want to flood the Blu Ray market with anything they can get there hands on. I think it's qauntity over quality, while HD DVD isn't having as many releases, I think that there releases are better, which is obviously just my opinion, but I believe it to be true.

HD DVD has some great movie's coming.

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100-300 titles this year does very little for me NOW when January releases were short and I see practically nothing announced for February (the end of this week). I'd rather give HD my money but if they aint gonna release anything worth buying then I'll get my monthly fill elsewhere.

Really c'mon there is only 6 movies total for all studios announced for February, thats a disgrace! Universal alone was putting out more movies then that per month previously.

I hope there are more announcements to come real soon I put in my order for 10 titles for each month on the first day of the month. And so far only one of them is HD DVD this month, BR is getting the other 9 unless someone announces something before the end of the week.


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Quality over quantity, people. Right now, taking my taste for movies into consideration, the quality of movies on HD DVD is MUCH better; it looks to stay that way, even with the upcoming BD titles.
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Yes.

There are a lot more BD titles I am interested in.

I own both but there are no recent HD DVD titles that interest me.

We need some annoncements soon.
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What movies are you waiting for? If its a Warner or Paramount movie, it will be released on the same or similar time schedule as BluRay. Obviously Sony, Fox, Disney are BluRay only studios.

Just last week I was saying the same thing as the OP and was told to be patient. Then I looked up Universal Studios movie list and found they have very few "must have" titles. Unless HD-DVD gets NewLine to release LOTR trilogy, HD-DVD will only survive with sub $200 players. IMO - throw out the hardware real cheap and the studios that are releasing movies (even crappy ones) will be making money. That will get Fox & Disney to perk up as they lose easy money supporting BluRay.

If I don't see a LOTR announcement by summer and/or no cheap HD-DVD players by November, HD-DVD is dead.

Why is there NO perfect equipment, only compromises?
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Quality over quantity, people. Right now, taking my taste for movies into consideration, the quality of movies on HD DVD is MUCH better; it looks to stay that way, even with the upcoming BD titles.

Thats bull... they were releasing quality movies previously at a rate of 3 times what there announcing now if anything progress should now have them releasing more then before


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Thats bull... they were releasing quality movies previously at a rate of 3 times what there announcing now if anything progress should now have them releasing more then before

You would think so, but in fact the opposite is true.
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Right now, BD has some excellent new releases (day and date).

I can say I've been tempted at times to add a BD player, but I will wait. SD will work for now on those titles...rented as well.
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Looking at both Upcoming Releases, I have

2 with HD DVD (Payback and The Game)
13 with BD (Casino Royale, The Departed)


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Looking at both Upcoming Releases, I have

2 with HD DVD (Payback and The Game)
13 with BD (Casino Royale, The Departed)

The Departed is HD-DVD as well.
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Thats bull... they were releasing quality movies previously at a rate of 3 times what there announcing now if anything progress should now have them releasing more then before

My post was aimed at the people wanting to support BD simply because it has more upcoming titles. It makes no sense if the quality of those titles is absolute crap. Taking my movie tastes into consideration, I'm no better off supporting BD over HD DVD, despite the fact that HD DVD releases have slowed to a crawl, because I find BD's quality of releases to be rather poor. The BD movies I do have are kind of stretching it, because none of them are as enjoyable as several of the HD DVD titles I own.
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I think these HD DVD's scheduled to be released in Europe are a lot better than what is scheduled for BD, plus all of the Universal titles:

April 25
The Island

May
Flags of Our Fathers

June
The Prestige
Natural Born Killers
Matrix (IME) (HD DVD only)

July
Mad Max 2
Matrix Reloaded (IME) (HD DVD only)

August
The Goonies
Matrix Revolutions (IME) (HD DVD only)

Letters from Iwo Jima

September
L.A. Confidential
Blade Runner
Poltergeist

300 (IME) (HD DVD only)
Blood Diamond (HD DVD only)
Zodiac

October
Dirty Harry
The Enforcer
Sudden Impact
Magnum force
The Dead Pool

Music and Lyrics
The Reaping

November
Harry Potter and the Chamber of Secrets (IME) (HD DVD only)
Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire(IME) (HD DVD only)
Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azkaban (IME) (HD DVD only)
Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (IME) (HD DVD only)

December
2001 A Space Odyssey
A Clockwork Orange
Eyes Wide Shut
Ocean's eleven (1960)
Ocean's eleven (2001)
Ocean's twelve
The Shining
The Wizard of Oz

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If your list was for the USA, and the Matrix trilogy and Harry Potter series would be HD-DVD only, I'd agree. But I've seen no such list for the USA which excludes BluRay from the Harry Potter of Matrix movies.

Why is there NO perfect equipment, only compromises?
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My post was aimed at the people wanting to support BD simply because it has more upcoming titles. It makes no sense if the quality of those titles is absolute crap. Taking my movie tastes into consideration, I'm no better off supporting BD over HD DVD, despite the fact that HD DVD releases have slowed to a crawl, because I find BD's quality of releases to be rather poor. The BD movies I do have are kind of stretching it, because none of them are as enjoyable as several of the HD DVD titles I own.

Crap is not Lawrence of Arabia, Dances with Wolves, Fistfull of Dollars, Bridge over the River Kwai, etc. Three major movies studios makes a big hit difference. Now no doubt they could do a LOT more but on 2007 releases so far HD DVD is eating dust. That's unfortunate as I love my A1 and HD DVD movies. Maybe Universal was underestimating it's impact but one would have thought Toshiba would have had it's chickens lined up for a big New Years roll out. That was not to be. Maybe they have minimal influence on studio releases and of course they don't have the muscle of owning a studio. I would say that if they don't have the market as they state with 1.5 to 2 million players in homes by years end they will be slowly marginalized out of the market.
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Toshiba needs to get it's act together and recruit more studios. The current studios also need to release more "A" list titles or it will soon be over for HD-DVD.

These "content is going to kill HD DVD" type comments are absurd. As long as Blu-Ray player prices remain sky high, it only makes sense that HD DVD will be able to hang around. Of course $500 retail for HD DVD isn't cheap either, but at least it beats Blu-ray pricing. Personally I ended up selling my A1 to a lawyer, he wanted HD but apparently didn't care to pay retail for either format.


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These "content is going to kill HD DVD" type comments are absurd. As long as Blu-Ray player prices remain sky high, it only makes sense that HD DVD will be able to hang around. Of course $500 retail for HD DVD isn't cheap either, but at least it beats Blu-ray pricing.

Hanging around isn't going to save HD-DVD. Getting a big lead is absolutely required if BluRay studios are going to go format neutral. Unfortunately sites that show who is selling more movies are now pointing to BluRay having taken a lead. In my view that lead will be permanent without real cheap players this year.

Why is there NO perfect equipment, only compromises?
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