the teir thread is NOT a waste. there are 2 different ways of guaging a movie, and there are differences in the quality of transfers in even new releases. we have hd-dvd because we are interested in PQ yes? I agree that it may be the directors intent to have a less than pristine look. (sleepy hollow, superman returns) but who is to say what exactly the director's intent was? i want to know if a movie i am buying is going to look good, great, or sub-par (fugitive, full metal jacket) i can appreciate the look of older films too, and content trumps PQ anytime, but i am not some immature 17 year old just because i like to know what something is going to look like before i buy it. that also does not mean that every movie has to look like mi-3 (i really liked superman returns, many on this board do not) i want great movies, and i want them to look great too. that does not mean they all have to look the same, but it also does not mean that a piss poor transfer was the director's intent. we have all seen the differences in DVD mastering over the years.