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post #1 of 95 Old 03-10-2007, 02:02 PM - Thread Starter
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The Sting is just about as perfect a movie viewing experience I could ever ask for, the PQ of this release is just awesome, oozing detail, vivid contrast and colors, very fine film grain is present at all times, not one hint of NR IMHO, the look of the film was perfectly captured with this, kudos to Universal on this one for sure

the Audio was also superb

a big thumbs up to our HD-DVD exclusive studio Universal, how anyone serious about films could only own BD and be missing out on Universal is just beyond me

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The Sting is just about as perfect a movie viewing experience I one could ever ask for, the PQ of this release is just awesome, oozing detail, vivid contrast and colors, very fine film grain is present at all times, not one hint of NR IMHO, the look of the film was perfectly captured with this, kudos to Universal on this one for sure

the Audio was also superb

a big thumbs up to our HD-DVD exclusive studio Universal, how anyone serious about films could only own BD and be missing out on Universal is just beyond me

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Gary, I really enjoyed this movie even on my small 70" JVC Pro. Great transfer, fun movie.

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a big thumbs up to our HD-DVD exclusive studio Universal, how anyone serious about films could only own BD and be missing out on Universal is just beyond me

-Gary

co-sign. There are a lot of people posing on here. If you LOVE cinema and have $4000 or more invested in your Home Theatre and are stubbornly waiting/wishing that one format dies the only person you're fooling is yourself.

If I had a complete HT system I'd be neutral right now. I need access ..I have a Mac and PC. If I bought a SACD player it better have DVD-Audio support as well. I don't go for depriving myself of entertainment and joy for political reasoning.

Gary I'm glad you're neutral and it's very evident you love movies. I think we have a bunch of people masquerading as movie lovers around here. You're not one of those people.

I'll certainly check out "The Sting" I've never seen it before but I do love when older films are restored nicely.
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This is one gem of a release for one gem of a movie. For a while prior to the HD DVD release, I strongly considered buying the DVD after renting it. I'm glad I waited for this excellent HD DVD treatment.
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The Sting is just about as perfect a movie viewing experience I one could ever ask for, the PQ of this release is just awesome, oozing detail, vivid contrast and colors, very fine film grain is present at all times, not one hint of NR IMHO, the look of the film was perfectly captured with this, kudos to Universal on this one for sure

the Audio was also superb

a big thumbs up to our HD-DVD exclusive studio Universal, how anyone serious about films could only own BD and be missing out on Universal is just beyond me

-Gary

Hmmm....interesting...The Sting HD DVD is only listed as Tier 3 quality dvd in this forum's sticky entitled "The Tier System for HD DVD PQ". By definition that would mean "Few 3D effects, some digital noise/artifacting". There is only one tier below that.

Any comments? Should I use that sticky as a decent guide to PQ?

The way you guys are raving makes me want to go buy this HD DVD tomorrow. CompUSA had one copy left at 20% off.
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That Tier system is pretty unreliable. I would go with member reviews first. Good one by the way Gary. I'm going to order this as well. I love this movie! Thnask Universal!
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Any comments? Should I use that sticky as a decent guide to PQ?

It depends on what you value in picture quality, and your acceptance of diversity in how movies are shot. The Sting wasn't shot in a way to look like King Kong. This transfer retains the film grain without removing it through messy noise reduction. In my opinion, it is what it ought to be and looks damn good. There are quite a few scenes with crisp detail. I say screw the tier thread and read the various "professional" reviews on the net to get a better understanding of how these transfers look.
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It depends on what you value in picture quality, and your acceptance of diversity in how movies are shot. The Sting wasn't shot in a way to look like King Kong. This transfer retains the film grain without removing it through messy noise reduction. In my opinion, it is what it ought to be and looks damn good. There are quite a few scenes with crisp detail. I say screw the tier thread and read the various "professional" reviews on the net to get a better understanding of how these transfers look.

Amen !
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i've always been pretty happy with the SD-DVD version, but i may have to double-dip. one of my favorite movies of all time. the poker scene on the train is priceless.

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The Tier thread is not about being faithful to the original look of the film.
It's about "POP" and "Sharpness" and "3D", i.e. video not film.
Plus who nows what kind of system the "judges" are viewing these discs on or whether they've been calibrated or anything.

I bought The Sting today because I like the movie and the price was right.

 

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I watched this the other night, and was wowed by it. Movie and picture. Recommended. The added documentary is also great, plus you have that ever so familiar theme tune.

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Hmmm....interesting...The Sting HD DVD is only listed as Tier 3 quality dvd in this forum's sticky entitled "The Tier System for HD DVD PQ". By definition that would mean "Few 3D effects, some digital noise/artifacting". There is only one tier below that.

Any comments? Should I use that sticky as a decent guide to PQ?

The way you guys are raving makes me want to go buy this HD DVD tomorrow. CompUSA had one copy left at 20% off.

if you value films and how they should look, vs just looking for eye popping entertainment then forget the tier thread

thanks for the kind comments guys, thats all it's about for me, films looking like films on whatever format

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When I bought this one on release date, I stuck it in the player just to check it out. I ended up watching the entire movie. I concur that this release is pristine -- the best old movie restoration I've seen on the format. HD is like watching these films again for the very first time! I'm DYING to see how great Slapshot looks when Uni releases it -- another Paul Newman classic!
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I am buying. Too many good reviews to overlook. Thanks guys.
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The Sting is just about as perfect a movie viewing experience I could ever ask for, the PQ of this release is just awesome, oozing detail, vivid contrast and colors, very fine film grain is present at all times, not one hint of NR IMHO, the look of the film was perfectly captured with this, kudos to Universal on this one for sure

the Audio was also superb

a big thumbs up to our HD-DVD exclusive studio Universal, how anyone serious about films could only own BD and be missing out on Universal is just beyond me

-Gary

Thanks. But, how come you are not doing cartwheels over "The Searchers"? I can't think of a better dated technicolor film that is its equal.
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CMRA I do not like John Wayne, I have never watched or owned his films, I will be picking up The Searchers though

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I just happened to get this from Blockbuster online, only watched the first 45 minutes or so, but I have to warn people, that it almost looks like it was filmed with a stocking put over the lens, certainly early in the movie. Lovers of film grain will love the look of this movie. Tier 3 placement is probably correct.
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it's tier nothing because it looks the way it should, if you are looking for eye popping HD entertainment to impress MTV loving 17 year olds then of course it is tier 3

I just don't see anyway things could get better than this release

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Saw it from Netflix recently. It's amazing to see how these older movies like this one, The Deer Hunter, Blazing Saddles, Grand Prix, and Casablanca can look so pristine and detailed. A big plus for HD DVD, IMO, that they have such classics getting the high def treatment.

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CMRA I do not like John Wayne, I have never watched or owned his films, I will be picking up The Searchers though

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The Quiet Man is a really good John Wayne movie .
I dont care for a lot of his movies either ...
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keep at it , results are worth it !!
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Saw it from Netflix recently. It's amazing to see how these older movies like this one, The Deer Hunter, Blazing Saddles, Grand Prix, and Casablanca can look so pristine and detailed. A big plus for HD DVD, IMO, that they have such classics getting the high def treatment.


The old 1930's Robin Hood looks real good, too. And don't forget Forbidden Planet (1950's)!!!
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I can't find it for rent on Netflix? Do they have it?

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I hadn't seen either The Sting or Deer Hunter until they came on HD DVD, and boy was I impressed. These are excellent movies. Irrepective of the PQ tier. But, I can't recall too many recent movies that measure up to these qualitatively.

I would highly recommend anyone to at least rent these.
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This is not reference material. Don't waste your money. It is great looking and looks like film and techniques used to film in the 1970's, it is one of the greatest movies ever made. It is low on the Tier system so don't bother.

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Yeah, the tier thread is a waste. Always loved this movie and the HD DVD is just icing on the cake.
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I can't find it for rent on Netflix? Do they have it?

Forgive me, I mis-spoke. I traded titles with a friend to get the HD DVD version of this film, it wasn't a rental. I'm not sure if Netflix even has the HD DVD version of it.

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The Sting never looked better. Big thanks to Universal for this release.
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I bought this today at a closing CompUSA, haven't seen the film before and really have no idea what it's about.
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I bought this today at a closing CompUSA, haven't seen the film before and really have no idea what it's about.

You're in for a treat. One of the best films made (IMHO of course). And a good introduction to Scott Joplin, for those who aren't familiar with his Ragtime music from the early 1900s.
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the teir thread is NOT a waste. there are 2 different ways of guaging a movie, and there are differences in the quality of transfers in even new releases. we have hd-dvd because we are interested in PQ yes? I agree that it may be the directors intent to have a less than pristine look. (sleepy hollow, superman returns) but who is to say what exactly the director's intent was? i want to know if a movie i am buying is going to look good, great, or sub-par (fugitive, full metal jacket) i can appreciate the look of older films too, and content trumps PQ anytime, but i am not some immature 17 year old just because i like to know what something is going to look like before i buy it. that also does not mean that every movie has to look like mi-3 (i really liked superman returns, many on this board do not) i want great movies, and i want them to look great too. that does not mean they all have to look the same, but it also does not mean that a piss poor transfer was the director's intent. we have all seen the differences in DVD mastering over the years.
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