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post #31 of 167 Old 06-24-2007, 04:00 PM
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Definite blocking in the WMV, which is surprising but I guess expected. So far both the BD and HD look good and very close at first glance.

Ultimate DVD looks...bad.
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BD and HD are really close. Huh.

"I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific." - Michael Caine, on Jaws the Revenge
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I think we need a bright non-visual effects outdoor shot where the whole frame is in focus.
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I think we need a bright non-visual effects outdoor shot where the whole frame is in focus.

Some particularly striking differences are visible during Sarah's dream of the playground just before the nuke hits. The HD DVD is much sharper and has much more vivid colors.

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BD and HD are really close. Huh.

yea HD DVD and BR is a tough comparison. They both look identical with the same dirt speck at the bottom of the laser fire.
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Ordered on Sunday and it shipped today from Xploited. Great site.
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To my eyes, the barrel of the plasma rifle looks a little clearer in the HD DVD versions compared to the BD. But yes, with this particular cap, the difference isn't major. Also, why is the dirt speck missing from under the plasma blast in the Theatrical HD DVD? Were all these others the DC from the same master or something?
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If you look at the eyes you'll notice the blu-ray is more blocky than the HD DVD discs. I found the beginning of the movie soft, would be nice to see a comparison of a frame later on in the movie or a close up as those are usually sharpest.
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I see chroma pixellation on the red eyes of Xylon's blu-ray screen shot, that isn't present in the hd-dvd screen shots. I don't remember ever seeing that on my blu-ray player.

*edit* I went back and checked and yes, I have no chroma pixillation from my player, here is a (crude) scaled down photograph of my 1080p LCD running at native res from a Sony PS3 to prove the point.
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interesting comparison!

to me the HD version seems to look a bit sharper than BR specially if you look at John's hair.
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definitely!
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original resolution of T2 WMVHD is 1440x816 encoded at less than 8Mbps
(stat in WMPpayer 6790Kbps)

You are correct. The original resolution is 1440x816 before MPC corrected the aspect ratio by streching it to 1920x816.
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I have T2 HD-DVD but have yet to watch more than 20 mins of it. As for these screenshots I can see a difference there between the BD and HD-DVD versions - if you look at the wheelchair sign in the background the HD-DVD is a tad sharper than the BD.
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Well, all versions have EE. Bring on the next transfer, EE free.
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John's clothes and the edges look a whole lot better that the BD version, even the handle bars on the bike look better in the HD-DVD version.

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the HD version looks clearer to me than the BD version
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John's clothes and the edges look a whole lot better that the BD version, even the handle bars on the bike look better in the HD-DVD version.

The BD one seems to have so much noise that it actually blurs out the picture. Look at the girls on the friends shirt.
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Yea the HD-DVD shots look slightly better, but i'm a bit concerned that xylon's blu-ray player software isn't doing any chroma interpolation/filtering when going from YPbPr 4:2:2 to RGB, when his hd-dvd software is, so it's not a perfect comparison.
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The HD-DVD does seem to be THE version out of all of these, with better detail and no compression noise, but the EE in the picture (and on the bars on the HD-DVD) is pretty disappointing. Jeez, we need another friggin master of T2 already?
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Sort of off topic...

I noticed that their will soon be released in August an English/British Island version of "T-2"

Will there soon be a English/USA version

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The HD DVD version seems to resolve more detail which makes it appear sharper. Here's a crop:


Notice e.g. the horizontal stitching on the jacket.

Some action scene with fast motion would be interesting.
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i also think that the hd version is slightly better looking, however, for the price difference of $20 versus $36 I am not sure it's worth that much money.

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The HD DVD version is clearly the superior one.

Many macroblocking artifacts are present in the Blu-Ray version and not in the HD DVD version, as you can clearly see in this 2x lossless zoom of the above screens:



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Wow

The difference between HD DVD and Blu Ray is noticeable. I'm glad I picked up the T2 HD DVD import
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