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post #451 of 472 Old 07-23-2008, 03:53 AM - Thread Starter
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I hope the Blu-ray version is DNR and EE free
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I hope the Blu-ray version is DNR and EE free

Thats why im glad I got the imports from Xploited

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http://xploitedcinema.com/catalog/ba...cfc82f7090e0fd

It's back in stock at Xploited for $189.95

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Uh oh. Did they pull a Universal?
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No comment

Still working on 4 versions. DVD, HBO broadcast Mpeg-2, HD DVD and Blu-ray. Should be up by friday.
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Can't wait for Xylon's verdict! I'd prefer to get the HD-DVD "BOB" set over the Blu-ray version but, since it's a little over $50 for the BD Box Set (versus hundreds for the out-of-print HD-DVD version), the HD-DVD would have to leaps and summersaults better than the BD for me to think about holding out. Unlike Xylon and his followers a tiny bit of EE or DNR won't bother me enough to not buy the BD version of "BOB" (being purple rules!).
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I sold my HD version as soon as the BR was announced on Amazon

just no way to justify $200 vs. $55 for me

i LOVE the series, but that's a big difference...i can put up with any difference in pic quality (if there even is one?)
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Xylon: Thanks as always for the great comparison pics. I have one question (three really):

1) What equipment are you using for SD? and,
2) Are you certain you've maximized the pq in SD? Would an Oppo 983 yield appreciably better results? Would a different display yield better results? and,
3) Are the photographs unretouched, unadultered and unchanged between HD and SD?

I ask because there are obvious glaring differences in pq for BoB (between SD and HD), and I'm wondering if that disparity could not be lessened. I will not spend $200 on BoB HD, and I think it's incredulous that you can now get BoB in BR for less than SD (great actually for BR owners). I want to purchase BoB in SD, but not if that's (what you have posted) the best I can achieve.

Thanks much, John
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to me, it would almost be worth it just to go out and buy a $250 BR player just to watch BOB on!

take the $150 you save on the discs and put that toward a BR player!?...

my Toshiba XA2 has never been as realiable as my PS3 for HD playback anyway

of course, just my $.02
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Thanks for the input bw. However, it's not so simple. I now have about 250 HD movies (six months ago I never thought I'd have half of that), I have about 200-300 SD movies, and I'm really not interested in purchasing a BD player...or BD movies. I am interested in maximizing my SD pq...and purchasing BoB in SD if the pq can be made to be stellar (less than HD or BD...but still phenomenal).

I must say that I am impressed w/ my a35's upscaling prowess on my 1080p Westy... However, after two very recent HD display purchases (Sammy 720 plasma and Westy 1080p LCD), that I am content keeping my HD collection and maximizing my upscaling ability w/ SD (over getting into BD).
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You guys still have your HD DVD?

This should be interesting. Yes, I do still have my BOB HD DVDs, and have no intent on selling them, even if the Blu-Ray set is better (although I can infer from your post that you are not finding that to be the case). I actually do have an order in for the Blu-Ray set, but only because it is so cheap right now ($40 at deepdiscount). It would be pretty interesting though if the HD DVDs many of us have are in fact the definitive version. Looking forward to your comparisons.
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Thanks for the input bw. However, it's not so simple. I now have about 250 HD movies (six months ago I never thought I'd have half of that), I have about 200-300 SD movies, and I'm really not interested in purchasing a BD player...or BD movies. I am interested in maximizing my SD pq...and purchasing BoB in SD if the pq can be made to be stellar (less than HD or BD...but still phenomenal).

I must say that I am impressed w/ my a35's upscaling prowess on my 1080p Westy... However, after two very recent HD display purchases (Sammy 720 plasma and Westy 1080p LCD), that I am content keeping my HD collection and maximizing my upscaling ability w/ SD (over getting into BD).

If you're serious about maximum SD-DVD PQ, then you need an Oppo 983. The new Oppo BD player may ironically even top the 983 by a hair for SD PQ. The Toshiba players are good at SD, but not as good as the Oppo.
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If you're serious about maximum SD-DVD PQ, then you need an Oppo 983. The new Oppo BD player may ironically even top the 983 by a hair for SD PQ. The Toshiba players are good at SD, but not as good as the Oppo.

Thanks rd. I'll look into that. I'm still wondering if xylon's SD pq is maximized. I'll await an answer, but will start contemplating the 983H or their new BD player.
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Thanks rd. I'll look into that. I'm still wondering if xylon's SD pq is maximized. I'll await an answer, but will start contemplating the 983H or their new BD player.

AFAIK, all his images are raw frame caps taken on a PC, so there is no processing involved. What you see is what you get. A player like the Oppo will improve the image somewhat, to be sure. But the difference in PQ (and AQ) between the DVD and HD/BD B.O.B. sets is substantial, and no amount of processing of an SD image will even come close. Monitors smaller than 50" will not show the differences as much as larger monitors.
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A player like the Oppo will improve the image somewhat, to be sure. But the difference in PQ (and AQ) between the DVD and HD/BD B.O.B. sets is substantial, and no amount of processing of an SD image will even come close.

+1, and the bottom line.
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I've had the HD DVD version for quite some time, and, out of curiosity, rented one of the Blu-Ray episodes from Netflix for comparison. My unscientific observation was that the Blu-Ray picture was slightly inferior, but not by much. It may just be different than what I'm used to seeing. I don't have an HDMI receiver, so I don't know if HD MA is noticeably superior to the terrific 1.5 mbs DTS sound on the HD DVD. For approximately $50, I'd go with the Blu-Ray. It's a steal.
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I would definitely say no matter which format you wind up with the BoB set is definitely worth it, even as a double dip (it helps the price of the BD set cost me 60% of what I paid for the original new release of the DVD as well). Definitely worth it. Haven't personally seen the HD DVD to compare, but from the screen shots seems like it's at least as good as the BD.

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I've got this in DVD, HD-DVD, and now Blu Ray. Got a hold of my blu copy from Best Buy minus $25 in rewards, paid $32 w/ tax, not bad. My personal opinion is that the HD-DVD is identical in sound with the Blu version, I couldn't tell a difference. On picture, I think the HD-DVD is slightly shaper ( I'm using a Onkyo HD-DVD player, and a Panasonic bd30, on a Samsung 56" 1080p dlp). However, this is extremely small, and I would definitely not deter anyone from buying the Blu, especially when it can be had at a good price. I think the Blu might have a slight amount of DNR, or maybe it is the players, or it could be my imagination. I've not done any screen grabs or anything scientific. I leave that for Xylon and others.
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I'm looking for the exact length of each episode on the HD-DVDs. unfortunately I can't find anything (imdb, allmovieguide, tvrage ect, they are all saying 60 min each ep.). And: Does it differ compared to the BD?

thx in advance

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is there any HD DVD vs Bluray Comparison ?
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is there any HD DVD vs Bluray Comparison ?

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