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Hairspray being released on Blu-ray exclusively in Q4

New Line title will debut Nov. 20 in three standard DVD versions
By Marcy Magiera -- Video Business, 9/11/2007
SEPT. 11 | New Line Home Entertainment will set holiday style Nov. 20, when it releases Hairspray in three standard DVD versions and on Blu-ray Disc, the studio's first high-definition release.

The dual-format supporting studio also will release the musical on HD DVD, but not until the first half of 2008 due to the format's lack of regional coding, making the title a de facto Blu-ray exclusive in the fourth quarter.

On DVD, the $107 million grossing box-office hit will be available as a single-disc priced at $28.98, in a two-disc Shake and Shimmy edition priced at $34.99 and in a gift set priced at $59.76. The Blu-ray and upcoming HD DVD will be $34.99. All prebook Oct. 16.

New Line decided to release the musical into the crowded fourth quarter, rather than waiting until the early January slot where it has success with such titles as last year's Wedding Crashers, as counterprogramming of a sort.

"Given the broad consumer audience for the film, we wanted to be out there," said New Line executive VP Matt LaSorsa. "It is unique and we think it will stand up against the major blockbusters." The studio will back the title with an "aggressive media budget," he said.

Both the two-disc DVD and the Blu-ray version will be packaged with a unique two-sided, transparent sleeve, that can be turned to show either the show's adult or teenage casts on the front of the package.

The two-disc Shake and Shimmy edition and the high-def versions are fully decked-out with extras, among them behind-the-scenes bonus features including a new musical number (I Can Wait), a You Can't Stop the Beat documentary, a Hairspray Extensions featurette offering dance breakdowns, audio commentaries and deleted scenes.

In addition, the Blu-ray version will have a Behind the Beat picture-in-picture-type option allowing viewers to watch behind-the-scenes footage and commentary concurrent with the running feature. The HD DVD, when it realeases next year, also will have picture-in-picture, Internet connectivity and Web-enhanced features.

The remake of the classic John Waters film about star-struck teenagers on a Baltimore TV dance show features a high-profile ensemble cast that includes John Travolta, Michelle Pfeiffer, Queen Latifah, Christopher Walken, Amanda Bynes and Zac Efron.
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How many of us here are planning on buying this movie......anyone?

IMO BD can keep this one all to themselves but thats just me
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Well that made my decision to plop down $500 on a Blu Ray player that much easier. NOT.

Come on New Line. Give us the good stuff. Enough of these actors in drag (ya hearing me Eddie). It was funny 20 years ago, but today not so much.
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How many of us here are planning on buying this movie......anyone?

IMO BD can keep this one all to themselves but thats just me

Not me.... but New Line's reasoning of delaying the HD DVD version is kinda wierd...."lack of region coding" ?
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I like the John Waters original and would rather see that in HD, but I was planning on picking it up. I can wait until 2008 to see it, plus the HD DVD is supposed to have additional content that the Blu-ray won't, so it sounds like we have to wait a bit longer but we'll have the complete package when it's finally released on HD DVD (the BD sounds like it will be neutered like 300).
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Home Media Magazine is stating the reason its delayed is because of region coding.

Lasorsa said the HD DVD version of Hairspray will most likely be released some time in the first half of next year. He attributes the delay to region coding issues. Blu-ray has region coding, but HD DVD does not. And since we sell to independent international distributors, Lasorsa said, we have to be more sensitive to their release dates than a major studio.

Even after Hairspray, most New Line titles will be released the same day on both standard DVD and Blu-ray Disc, with a lag for the HD DVD version. But for second-party acquisitions to which we don't have international rights, Lasorsa said, we will be day-and-date on all three formats.

Whooa... I guess there are always two sides to a story. Region Code-free just backfired.

New Line is not distributing its movies itself in Europe. Dependend on the title all have different distributors - many so-called independent labels (read: none of the majors).

Therefor I expect any movie from New Line which is distributed by anybody else than Warner internationally will see a delay for HD-DVD in the US (and worldwide for that matter).


THIS IS BIG and sad NEWS.


btw Hairspray is just about to launch in Europe as we speak. Expect a 6 month window until the HD-DVD release...


Well at least Lord of the Rings is not day-and-date and therefor will not be delayed (yes, even we Europeans have seen it already )
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Yet they release it on DVD, in which the region coding can be removed in a matter of seconds. That makes a lot of sense.

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lol, remember when New Line kept saying we'll have an announcement "very soon". Could it be they were waiting for a Warner deal to finalize? lmao, but maybe the HD DVD release got pushed to '08 because by then we'd already know that Warner finally decided it's going blu!
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Whooa... I guess there are always two sides to a story. Region Code-free just backfired.

New Line is not distributing its movies itself in Europe. Dependend on the title all have different distributors - many so-called independent labels (read: none of the majors).

Therefor I expect any movie from New Line which is distributed by anybody else than Warner internationally will see a delay for HD-DVD in the US (and worldwide for that matter).


THIS IS BIG and sad NEWS.


btw Hairspray is just about to launch in Europe as we speak. Expect a 6 month window until the HD-DVD release...


Well at least Lord of the Rings is not day-and-date and therefor will not be delayed (yes, even we Europeans have seen it already )

They are a Warner company. How long will they be doing Blu-ray anyway?...
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lol, remember when New Line kept saying we'll have an announcement "very soon". Could it be they were waiting for a Warner deal to finalize? lmao, but maybe the HD DVD release got pushed to '08 because by then we'd already know that Warner finally decided it's going blu!

Anything is possible.
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I like the John Waters original and would rather see that in HD, but I was planning on picking it up. I can wait until 2008 to see it, plus the HD DVD is supposed to have additional content that the Blu-ray won't, so it sounds like we have to wait a bit longer but we'll have the complete package when it's finally released on HD DVD (the BD sounds like it will be neutered like 300).

Can only imagine what type of "complete package" will be on the HD version. "Tips for Trannies" possibly?
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Wait, is this good news or bad news?
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Wait, is this good news or bad news?

Good news . Now if only Norbit could have been delayed indefinitely
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Universal, Warner, Paramount have no problems releasing HD DVD's without region coding but somehow New Line sees this as a problem. And as someone pointed out they are happy to release the standard DVD at the same time as the BR. Maybe they wanted to go BR exclusive and this is how they show their displeasure?
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Isn't New Line owned by Warner?

Something doesn't make sense here...what does region coding have to do with releasing the films at a different date? Won't the disc still have NO region coding at the later date?

Warner owns too many HD DVD patents (read as royalties) to go BD exclusive...besides, doesn't it cost them next to nothing to do an HD DVD run since they already have the encode done for it?
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The stuff people want from New Line is catalog, not Hairspray.
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Something doesn't make sense here...what does region coding have to do with releasing the films at a different date? Won't the disc still have NO region coding at the later date?

Yes, but then it would be after the theatrical window.

It is nice to be able to legally watch something in HD before or just after it hits theaters, but I don't expect theater owners to like that we can do that with some things and likely not theatrical distributors who aren't getting any cut from the discs. For now it is probably a small issue, but might be more political and looking toward the future as far as New Line protecting their partners.

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I predict Hairspray will come out on HD DVD faster than it takes the Matrix or Batman Begins to come out on Blu-Ray

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Blu-ray has region coding, but HD DVD does not. “And since we sell to independent international distributors,” Lasorsa said, “we have to be more sensitive to their release dates than a major studio.”

Um, sounds more like someone hasn't thought this out, than they came up with sound business strategy.
If they are going to take this seriously then Blu release need to be shelved as long as HD. ince they A1 region includes North America, Central America, South America, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Hong Kong and Southeast Asia.

I seriously doubt that the HD international market has jumped so far ahead as to be dangerious. Besides the UK release is 1 day ahead of the US.

Something else is behind this, even if it's only faulty reasoning.
This may change before November
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I seriously doubt that the HD international market has jumped so far ahead as to be dangerious. Besides the UK release is 1 day ahead of the US.

And it hasn't opened yet in Spain, Russia, or Italy. While it hasn't opened yet in Japan either, they may own the theatrical rights there or they may be compromising.

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Yet they release it on DVD, in which the region coding can be removed in a matter of seconds. That makes a lot of sense.

This is because their concern is not that the content is actually region-protected, but that they can do something to be able to say to their international distribution partners that the content is region-protected.

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Oh darn, and I was so not even going to rent this
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And it hasn't opened yet in Spain, Russia, or Italy. While it hasn't opened yet in Japan either, they may own the theatrical rights there or they may be compromising.

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It hasn't opened in Japan yet either.
Be releasing this on Blu for the UK and US these countries can get the movie;, Central America, South America, Japan, North Korea, South Korea, Hong Kong and Southeast Asia. All of Europe, Greenland, French territories, Middle East, Africa, Australia and New Zealand.
For the reasons they given, this make no sense aside for ignorance on the studios part . If that truly is their concern Blu will be delayed just as long as HD.

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USA 13 July 2007 (Los Angeles, California) (premiere)
Canada 20 July 2007
UK 20 July 2007
USA 20 July 2007
Israel 26 July 2007
Thailand 2 August 2007
Argentina 7 August 2007 (Buenos Aires) (premiere)
Argentina 9 August 2007
Mexico 10 August 2007
Denmark 17 August 2007
Belgium 22 August 2007
France 22 August 2007
Philippines 22 August 2007 (Manila)
Czech Republic 23 August 2007
Singapore 23 August 2007
Bulgaria 24 August 2007
Estonia 24 August 2007
Sweden 24 August 2007
Hungary 30 August 2007
Netherlands 30 August 2007
Slovakia 30 August 2007
Norway 31 August 2007
Germany 6 September 2007
Hong Kong 6 September 2007
Portugal 6 September 2007
Australia 13 September 2007
Finland 13 September 2007 (limited)
Iceland 14 September 2007
Spain 14 September 2007
Brazil 21 September 2007
Japan 25 September 2007 (Tokyo) (premiere)
Japan 26 September 2007 (Osaka) (premiere)
Italy 28 September 2007
Finland 5 October 2007
Japan 20 October 2007
Russia 25 October 2007
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This is actually GREAT news, you know why? Because it means that the HD DVD group will not give in to pressure from a studio to enact region-coding.

If HD DVD being region-free means we'll have some titles delayed, then so be it.

I don't ever want to see an HD DVD region-coded. Enough of that nonsense.
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This is only for new titles. Any catalog titles would be released on HD DVD along with BD.
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btw Hairspray is just about to launch in Europe as we speak.

Actually it played in the UK earlier this summer. I guess other European countries are getting it later.

Edit: doh, list already posted!

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I seriously doubt that the HD international market has jumped so far ahead as to be dangerious. Besides the UK release is 1 day ahead of the US.

Something else is behind this, even if it's only faulty reasoning.
This may change before November

Actually, from their business standpoint, it makes sense (as bad news as it is).

Take for example, the UK. In the UK, oddly enough, a company called Entertainment Film Distributors handles New Line movies. Entertainment's home video arm, Entertainment In Video, is exclusive to Blu-ray. So, any New Line movie in the UK will only be on BD. It's reasons like this that shed more light on the move - Entertainment Film Distributors have presumably paid a lot of money for the rights to New Line's movies, and if New Line were to beat them to their UK release and make it easier to take revenue away from them, it'd most likely damage their relationship.

For what it's worth, I live in the UK and import a lot of US (and sometimes Australian, French, Japanese etc...) movies, and always will. But there's really not a lot in this news other than New Line not wanting to piss the likes of Entertainment off.

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