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This may have already been posted, but I could not find it on AVS.

Beginning in January 2008, the HD-DVD Combo will be discontinued by Warner Home Video for the Theatrical New Release Business Unit. Warner will be offering the HD version only.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix will be the last title we are offering the HD-DVD Combo for. The Invasion will be the first HD only title on the TNR release slate.

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Interesting.
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Thank God! Although, I buy all neutral titles on Blu-ray, but still maybe other studios will catch on?
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Too bad, I actually liked the combo format, although I loathed it's pricing.

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Our prayers were answered! Now time for Universal to do the same.
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Good. Cheaper prices and fewer glitches. Now, only Universal needs to come to their senses.

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Interesting. I wonder if this is the origin of the "Warner is going Blu Ray Exclusive at 10 AM PST" rumor that was floating around.

Someone must have misinterpreted dropping combos to be the same as dropping HD DVDs altogether.
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Interesting. I wonder if this is the origin of the "Warner is going Blu Ray Exclusive at 10 AM PST" rumor that was floating around.

Someone must have misinterpreted dropping combos to be the same as dropping HD DVDs altogether.

Or it's completely unrelated.
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Good. Those things are nothing but a nightmare.
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Too bad, I actually liked the combo format, although I loathed it's pricing.

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Thank god, I hate the combo. Just give me my disc art and I will be happy

Combos were a great idea, they just forgot to keep the price the same as SD DVD's and discontinue THOSE all together.

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I don't understand... I have BD and HD-DVD in my setup/collection. Titles that are on both formats are purchased on HD-DVD. The reason? I want the combo disc...

I have only one HD-DVD and on BD player in my house (in the HT) but I have probably 20 DVD players if you count computers, laptops, portable players, and game systems. I refuse to buy SD-DVD anymore but would like the ability to play my discs wherever I'd like or even loan them to a friend that isn't HD ready...

Eventually, this won't matter but, for now... I'm willing to pay a bit more for the flexibility. That said, I'm aware of the issues many have had. All I can say is that I've not encountered any problems myself.

Just my 2 cents.
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Hopefully they will get MC going with a optional download of a SD version for use in standard DVD players. Otherwise the incentive to rip the HD DVD and reauthor to a DVD becomes a lot stronger.
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Other than disliking the higher price, I had no real feelings either way about combos.
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I don't understand... I have BD and HD-DVD in my setup/collection. Titles that are on both formats are purchased on HD-DVD. The reason? I want the combo disc...

your in the small fraction of minority.
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Combos cost more and are unstable. Good riddance and good move from Warner!
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This may have already been posted, but I could not find it on AVS.

Beginning in January 2008, the HD-DVD Combo will be discontinued by Warner Home Video for the Theatrical New Release Business Unit. Warner will be offering the HD version only.

Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix will be the last title we are offering the HD-DVD Combo for. The Invasion will be the first HD only title on the TNR release slate.

-Robert

Do you have any idea of why they have made this choice?

Blu ray is the best Blah, blah, blah.
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Good! The next step will be to discontinue the production of BDs.
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It's about time!!! Now, we just need to get Universal to stop the madness all together.

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Is their one available for this announcement?
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When can i get We Are Marshall with a big green "M" printed on the disc?
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Well I'm kind of torn on this one. I like the lower cost of titles and hate the fear of buying something that might not work, but love the idea of combos.
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Well I'm kind of torn on this one. I like the lower cost of titles and hate the fear of buying something that might not work, but love the idea of combos.

My sentiments, exactly. I wonder what this move means for the future of the single-sided "twin format" concept.

I don't feel special...
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I don't understand... I have BD and HD-DVD in my setup/collection. Titles that are on both formats are purchased on HD-DVD. The reason? I want the combo disc...

I have only one HD-DVD and on BD player in my house (in the HT) but I have probably 20 DVD players if you count computers, laptops, portable players, and game systems. I refuse to buy SD-DVD anymore but would like the ability to play my discs wherever I'd like or even loan them to a friend that isn't HD ready...

Eventually, this won't matter but, for now... I'm willing to pay a bit more for the flexibility. That said, I'm aware of the issues many have had. All I can say is that I've not encountered any problems myself.

Just my 2 cents.

Maybe they will start using the dual format with both HD DVD and standard DVD on the same side.
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your in the small fraction of minority.

The entire hd dvd market is in the small fraction of a minority.

At this point a separate SKU to serve a niche of what is already a niche market probably doesn't justify production costs which is no doubt why they 1st tried to push the combo format with a premium price.

At the same time does one less format advantage over BD = 1 step closer to BD for Warner?

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Feel free to give us a link to this story.
I have checked all over Google and have not found even one hint of this anywhere.
I don't trust anything until I see official announcements. And even then I find it hard to trust anybody in this format war. Not one single Studio has been truthful at all times.
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I am disappointed that they didn't discontinue HD-DVD altogether

Why would they want to lose ~40% of their sales?
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Maybe this is proof of them returning to their original HD DVD-exclusive status in early 2008? Dropping combos would lower the manufacturing costs for Warner's HD DVDs. Lower costs = less risk for them, financially and would (arguably) be more attractive to their voting board members if they were to propose going HD DVD-exclusivity after their 4Q2007 books are closed and up for review.

Let's face it, BD still isn't up-to-speed for all of the interactive features Warner wants to experiment with on HDM (and probably won't be for at least another year). HD DVD is.
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Why would they want to lose ~40% of their sales?

Because they would easily replace it with a bigger % then that if there was only one format. J6P would be able to buy without fearing of a format dying.

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The entire hd dvd market is in the small fraction of a minority.

At this point a separate SKU to serve a niche of what is already a niche market probably doesn't justify production costs which is no doubt why they 1st tried to push the combo format with a premium price.

why? because studios thought average joes will buy the combo to future proof their collection. Obviously their market research failed. Not only are people not buying the combo for future proofing their collection, its also keeping away potential hd buyers due to the higher price. I'm sure the reliability problems plaugqing did play a part in it.
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