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Just wached Transformers on my brand new A3 that i got from VE and its my very first experience with HD DVD. loving it so far.

Seemed that Transformers really didnt have much bass in it.
the Ironman trailer literally rocked the house cause i had to turn up my reciever so much during the Transformers. i had left it at the same volume level and when ironman started, it made me jump for the remote.

ive got a kenwood rxv1400 reciever. ive got hdmi to tv and optical to reciever. i set the reciever to DTS.

is this normal?

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bass sounded fine on my setup and it's not that even good of a setup.
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i dont get it

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I don't see that model listed on Kenwood's website. What is the player outputting via the optical. It should be set to Bitrate I believe. I had no lack of bass on my setup but mine is setup via HDMI, shouldn't matter though.
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I got yet another complaint to complex management from the downstairs neighbor after watching it running no sub and a 20 year old pair of infinity RS4000's

Not lacking bass here.
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There is definitely something not right with the audio OUTPUT on Transformers. Even the DVD sounds muted, so it's not a transcoding/setup issue.

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There is definitely something not right with the audio OUTPUT on Transformers. Even the DVD sounds muted, so it's not a transcoding/setup issue.

Right, that's why every review gave it top scores for audio
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No bass issues at all here. The infrasonics are incredible at times, but I think the might of your sub will determine how much of those you'll get. I have four subs in my theater room which amounts to almost 2000 watts of power and 6 12" drivers. So I don't think I'm the norm.

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No bass issues at all here. The infrasonics are incredible at times, but I think the might of your sub will determine how much of those you'll get. I have four subs in my theater room which amounts to almost 2000 watts of power and 6 12" drivers. So I don't think I'm the norm.

NICE, I guess if there were bass issues you would know as well as anybody
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I have one sub rated at only 500 watts RMS, albeit in a smaller room, and the bass can often be thunderous during intense action sequences. I have no bass issues at all with this track in my normal setup.

For reference, I'm using HDMI from a Toshiba HD-A2.
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I didn't notice a ton of bass on the scenes I previewed, but then again I don't like stuff to be boomy just for the sake of being boomy.

Maybe it's worth asking how everyone is decoding. I'm sending decoded multi-channel PCM from the A20 to my receiver.

I assume many others here are using analog 5.1 outs. Maybe that's the difference?
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No probms with bass. On main system I have a def tech 15" (low bass) and two mirage 8" (mid bass) via anolog with X-merdian. Another system just has a 15" def tech with X-plosion SPDIF and the bass was fine also.

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Bass seemed cool to me on my A1 over 5.1 Analogs.

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im using an old kenwood htib and to me it seems like unless an hddvd has true hd, it doesnt sound as good as my dvds used to. i remember watching hot fuzz and being disappointed with the lack of "oomph" during the big shootout.
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im using an old kenwood htib and to me it seems like unless an hddvd has true hd, it doesnt sound as good as my dvds used to. i remember watching hot fuzz and being disappointed with the lack of "oomph" during the big shootout.

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, you're kidding right?? of all the movies to choose Hot fuzz had one of the most thunderous bass tracks that I've heard yet. the shotgun blasts from Pegg and frost in the shootout was absolutely insane beyond belief.
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All the bass is at my house.

My clothing was shaking.

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Yeah, if Hot Fuzz didn't have enough bass for you, then you might want to consider re-calibrating your system. The shootout scenes practically caved my chest in.
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!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!, you're kidding right?? of all the movies to choose Hot fuzz had one of the most thunderous bass tracks that I've heard yet. the shotgun blasts from Pegg and frost in the shootout was absolutely insane beyond belief.

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Yeah, if Hot Fuzz didn't have enough bass for you, then you might want to consider re-calibrating your system. The shootout scenes practically caved my chest in.

I am going to have to agree with the above. I have an old Kenwood HTIB as well and an old 12in car sub with box and watching Hot Fuzz it cut my reciever so many times I had to turn the base down to -2 or -3.

I would definitly have to take a look at the sub settings. Is the sub
connected? sorry had to ask.

On another note with my original HTIB sub I didnt hear much bass either. If I were you I would invest in a sub. I am sure there are some cheap subs around. You will not be dissapointed.
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Definition of BASS

1) 300
2) Patriot
3) Air Force One
4) Face/Off
5) SM3

When it comes to DD+ we are forced to crank up the volume levels to exorbitant levels. It would be better if Toshiba provides a pre-out volume knob via firmware upgrade.

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i dont mean to just single out the bass. i mean the audio in general. i have to turn up the volume more for hds than i had to with sds. and yes the sub is turned on lol. and like i said this only applies for non truehd movies. everything else sounds good. i dont know if ive had problems with dts on hds. i think its just the dd+
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There is definitely something not right with the audio OUTPUT on Transformers. Even the DVD sounds muted, so it's not a transcoding/setup issue.

Yep...its complete coincidence that nearly every single review of the HD DVD disc gives it 5/5 for audio....


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LOL, not enough bass for you? There were times where I would feel the air coming out of the subwoofer port from across the room.
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for those that say sound is good, would getting a hdmi receiver help in my situation?

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I watched this last night, and while I remember a bit more surround usage in the theater, the bass was basically non-stop. If someone watching this movie doesn't think theres any bass, there's seriously something wrong. I wasn't using HDMI either - A2, Yamaha RX-V2500 and Velodyne F1200 sub. Maybe the frequencies are lower than your sub can replicate? The rumble in my room never stopped, no exaggeration.
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Same here. I had tons of bass while watching it. Especially the scene where IronHide jumps over the ladies head. That is a complete all bass shot, literally rumbles through the house.
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I didn't get any fish with my copy of Transformers.
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Just wached Transformers on my brand new A3 that i got from VE and its my very first experience with HD DVD. loving it so far.

Seemed that Transformers really didnt have much bass in it.
the Ironman trailer literally rocked the house cause i had to turn up my reciever so much during the Transformers. i had left it at the same volume level and when ironman started, it made me jump for the remote.

ive got a kenwood rxv1400 reciever. ive got hdmi to tv and optical to reciever. i set the reciever to DTS.

is this normal?

Make sure the dynamic compression? is OFF from your A3.
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