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I apologize if this issue does not belong to this forum.
I am new to HD with a Toshiba HD-D3 player (720p and 1080i) and a pj with a native resolution of 720p.
I have noticed that the 5 HD DVD movies that I have played this far they all are 1080p. Does this mean that if I had a 1080p player it would not have to de-interlace the information from the disc, just read it direct and downscale it to 720p? That would be great in my circumstances, wouldn't it?
How does then the D3 handle the 1080p info from the disc when I have it outputting 720p to the pj? Does it interlace it first to 1080i and then scale it down to 720i and then de-interlace it to 720p? Not good, right?
Given that HD dVDs seem to be in 1080p, I am trying to determine if, at least in theory, I would do a lot better with a 1080p player such as the HD-A30 given that HD DVDs appear to be all in 1080p format even if my pj is 720p?
Any comments will be appreciated.
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I apologize if this issue does not belong to this forum.
I am new to HD with a Toshiba HD-D3 player (720p and 1080i) and a pj with a native resolution of 720p.
I have noticed that the 5 HD DVD movies that I have played this far they all are 1080p. Does this mean that if I had a 1080p player it would not have to de-interlace the information from the disc, just read it direct and downscale it to 720p? That would be great in my circumstances, wouldn't it?
How does then the D3 handle the 1080p info from the disc when I have it outputting 720p to the pj? Does it interlace it first to 1080i and then scale it down to 720i and then de-interlace it to 720p? Not good, right?
Given that HD dVDs seem to be in 1080p, I am trying to determine if, at least in theory, I would do a lot better with a 1080p player such as the HD-A30 given that HD DVDs appear to be all in 1080p format even if my pj is 720p?
Any comments will be appreciated.

the short version: i have a similar setup and i set my hd-a2 to 1080i output and my pj downscales it to 720p. looks great.

u can set player to output 480i/p, 720p, or 1080i. your pj will downscale the disc to its native res., 720p. i suggest 1080i for player, it should also look great. but try 720p also.

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If you set the output setting to 720p in the Toshiba's setup menu, it will go from 1080p to 720p in the player, and will be output as 720p to your projector.

I love HD...and I hated that Anti-Consumer format war.

Now that we can move on... Blu-ray > Digital Downloads!
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If you have a 720p projector or HD DVD I recommend outputting at 720p. But try both 720p and 1080i to see what you like best.

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I apologize if this issue does not belong to this forum.
I am new to HD with a Toshiba HD-D3 player (720p and 1080i) and a pj with a native resolution of 720p.
I have noticed that the 5 HD DVD movies that I have played this far they all are 1080p. Does this mean that if I had a 1080p player it would not have to de-interlace the information from the disc, just read it direct and downscale it to 720p? That would be great in my circumstances, wouldn't it?
How does then the D3 handle the 1080p info from the disc when I have it outputting 720p to the pj? Does it interlace it first to 1080i and then scale it down to 720i and then de-interlace it to 720p? Not good, right?
Given that HD dVDs seem to be in 1080p, I am trying to determine if, at least in theory, I would do a lot better with a 1080p player such as the HD-A30 given that HD DVDs appear to be all in 1080p format even if my pj is 720p?
Any comments will be appreciated.


720P looked best on a Panasonic AE700 that I help setup. It is a native 720p projector also.
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FYI, D3 and A3 are only 1080 i machines. The A-30,A-35 are the 1080p ones, with the 35 getting DTS HD MA sound only. Enjoy your purchase.
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When it comes to 1080i output, read this link.

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When it comes to 1080i output, read this link.

Thanks to all those that have answered my questions!!
In the referred article we can read "It is incredibly unlikely that they will ever broadcast 1080p (too much bandwidth) or that 1080p/60 content will show up on discs (too much storage space and no one is using it to record/film)."
Should I understand that the actual "content" of the HD DVD films is NOT in 1080p as it is claimed on their cases?
And if it is not 1080p, is it 1080i at the very list?
Can anybody shed some light into this issue?
Thanks in advance
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You can put the 1080P disc in your machine and can use 480P . 720P and 1080i to your display . The disc will do 1080P on a 1080P capable Player . You choose which output resolution....

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Should I understand that the actual "content" of the HD DVD films is NOT in 1080p as it is claimed on their cases?
And if it is not 1080p, is it 1080i at the very list?
Can anybody shed some light into this issue?
Thanks in advance


clarification

It is 1080p (content)

but it is 1080p/24fps NOT 1080p/60fps

Do NOT let the magic smoke out because it is impossible to put the magic smoke back in!!!!
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clarification

It is 1080p (content)

but it is 1080p/24fps NOT 1080p/60fps

Thanks for the info, Figgie, this is great news!!
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720P looked best on a Panasonic AE700 that I help setup. It is a native 720p projector also.

NOT disputing your results, although I found that with the same projecter, I got better results setting the player (x1) to 1080i.

Best advice? Try 'em both and see if you see a difference. If you do, stay with it and enjoy and awesome picture!
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