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post #91 of 98 Old 03-10-2008, 12:04 PM
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I liked the old Yardbirds.

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Come on now Ron, that's not what he's saying! I don't mind having psychics or dowsers or other alternative medical practitioners. Licence them and as a criteria for the licence, have them demonstrate their talents. Can't do it, you can't practice it.

Hey, that is an excellent idea!
We could have a similar test for audio critics.
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Ron, I believe you are experiencing how science in the wrong hands makes bad people out of good theory. I recommend using the ignore feature, it works wonders for the quality of life around here. Unfortunately, some folks only seek knowledge as a tool to attack other people...

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I wouldn't mind banishing irrational people to the caves, but I guess nobody is perfect and its probably better if I have a LITTLE compassion.

"Science" is more of a general process based on logic and isn't some kind of formula for success in and of itself. It serves to answer questions with a greater degree of certainty than random guessing. It takes a logical mind to understand the difference between "X implies Y but Y doesn't imply X" or "If X is true, then Y is false, but if X is false then you can't draw any conclusion."

In the case of Machani's test, the way he constructed it, failing to distinguish the difference between players would be a BIG result, but the results as they stand do not mean much.

On the other hand, if he level matched and did a bunch of trials with unbiased observers and eliminated all the sources of error he could think of and failed to tell the difference, that would ALSO be an "unsurprising" result. What would be most surprising of all, and most enlightening, would be to conduct a scientifically sound test that leads to the conclusion that even in blind, controlled conditions, CD players are still distinguishable, THAT would be a big result. Bigger than failing to find any differences in a casual test.
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I liked the old Yardbirds.

Ditto, esp. the Beck Era.

If you can't explain how it works, you can't say it doesn't.—The High-End Creed

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Ditto, esp. the Beck Era.

I loved the brief live band shot of the Yardbirds with both Beck and Page in the movie "Blow-up". As I recall they were playing "The Train Kept A'Rollin" or Stroll On as it is known. I see that it is on you tube-interesting.
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I'll see if I can find my little violin to play you a song, Q.

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I sure hope that we hear from the OP soon on his new test results.
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