Originally Posted by oldschool4life
If you want side on caution, I would think you wouldn't want to cut yourselves short; so, why use cheap interconnects?
On a side note, I wasn't trying to attack you; I was trying to defend my stance. It seems like pro-cable people have to defend ourselves from anti-cable people.
I appreciate the reply. I was not talking about using junk VS something 1/2 respectable - which BTW would apply to many people just entering the hobby. I would agree that the cables that come with a stock unit may not be up to snuff (subject to interpretation) I am talking about consumers expecting "better performance" by investing in the esoteric stuff (i.e the more you spend the better your SQ) and that using "ears to judge" this esoteric stuff is not even a legitimate way of comparing a cable.
MauneyM and many others who have had a lot of real world experience with this stuff, have indicated that wire is not wire indeed and that esoteric cable can add extras into the sound (as we all know). Therefore if a cusomer hears these "extras" I suppose they assume that the cable is doing what it is "supposed to do" thus making it a worthwhile purchase. Even though, this "extra" is not necessarily an upgrade to SQ.
All it would take is some sort of change to a sound to let someone believe that cable was doing what it was supposed to do. Change seems to automatically equal better in this hobby. And, better would almost always equal a worthwhile investment in this hobby.
Whatever..... why is it everything here turns into an us VS them battle? Should everyone all be on the same side with an issue like this? Particularley one where there is a scientific way to measure? I mean we are not talking about helping people who know what they are doing and know the hobby and are concerned with asthetics. We are talking about the every day guy who may read here but never post who like everyone else in the world (do to great marketing) just assumes "more expensive" is "better" and that any time they hear a cable change the sound, its an improvement.
I wonder what the % is of cable purchases (esoteric) that are done without any demo because it is just assumed it would be an improvement?
Also, I wonder how many posters that are on this site are linked in some way to these manufacturers. I think in this day and age of the internet with a site like this being a major deciding factor in someone's purchase that many manufacturesr may feel the best place to close a sale is in a place where a consumer might feel he is getting completely unbiased info. I dont know and am not accusing anyone I just wonder about it.
I know the the retail AV industry has long penetraded the internet and that there are legit AV guys here who are also B&M guys too. Great knowledgable posters. However, wouldn't it be super simple for these cable companies, or anyone to have shills post on the site to make sure that people are led to beleive that product X works and is worth the money?
Do people here ever think about the marketing aspect, and perception of a site like this to the general public? Or are we so insecure, and in so need to either prove we know more than others, or defend our purchases, that we cant let go of our biases? Or is it just plain old fashioned "sales" disgusied as an unbiased forum? Sort of the "sales tactics" of the new mellenium perhaps?