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Bump the Oppo-95 down to disconintued.
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Bump the Oppo-95 down to disconintued.

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Which HDMI output are you using?


Finally swung the rack around to do some wire management (and hook up my Sony S770 as it is probably going to be my reference SACD DSD transport). I DID have the OPPO hooked up to HDMI 1. swapped it around so the TV is output 1 and the Onkyo is HDMI2. have not tried it yet, but am very interested to find out if it will be better than the BDP83.

It seems that even the player is outputting straight DSD, the actual sound can vary wildly. I proved this with my BDP83 vs S770 vs (Pioneer) 48DV shootout a few months back.
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Finally swung the rack around to do some wire management (and hook up my Sony S770 as it is probably going to be my reference SACD DSD transport). I DID have the OPPO hooked up to HDMI 1. swapped it around so the TV is output 1 and the Onkyo is HDMI2. have not tried it yet, but am very interested to find out if it will be better than the BDP83.
 

HDMI 2 is better for audio as it does not go through the Qdeo video processor.


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So you preferred 176/16 (Sony) to 88/24 (Oppo)?!

Neither of those are DSD.


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Finally swung the rack around to do some wire management (and hook up my Sony S770 as it is probably going to be my reference SACD DSD transport). I DID have the OPPO hooked up to HDMI 1. swapped it around so the TV is output 1 and the Onkyo is HDMI2. have not tried it yet, but am very interested to find out if it will be better than the BDP83.

It seems that even the player is outputting straight DSD, the actual sound can vary wildly. I proved this with my BDP83 vs S770 vs (Pioneer) 48DV shootout a few months back.


Update 2 I got to try out both the OPPO and the Sony in kinda a shoot out. First off, I was very pleased to finally get DSD out of the OPPO and it sounded great. I had both running HDMI into my NR809 in "Pure Direct" mode.

After several switching of the SACD (Elton John-Honky Chateau) I still have a slight nod toward the Sony. It seems to kick up the center channel just enough to really bring out the vocals in the song (not that he has the best singing voice LOL) and sounded just a little bit more "full" than the OPPO.


On the other hand, the conversion to PCM with stereo SACD's sounds much better than direct DSD.
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jfbar1,

What Onkyo receiver do you have?

I was wondering if you've tried listening with Audyssey enabled. Some receivers are unable to apply Audyssey to DSD or very high bitrate LPCM.

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It's probably time to consider moving the Sony BDP-S390 and -S590 to the discontinued column, replacing them by the BDP-S5100. Unfortunately, the manual for the -S3100 does not mention any SACD or DSD support. Both are mentioned in the -S5100's manual, but the bitrate of the LPCM conversion isn't specified.

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What Onkyo receiver do you have?

I was wondering if you've tried listening with Audyssey enabled. Some receivers are unable to apply Audyssey to DSD or very high bitrate LPCM.


It is a NR809. Funny story, never got the audessy to complete without errors. It sounds pretty good as is. I was more interested in comparing the DSD out of the Sony S770 with my new OPPO BDP-103. Like I said before, it was a very close race, bu tI ended up liking the Sony better. I left the AVR with the same volume and both inputs were running "pure direct"
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I think the two Yamaha A1000 and A1010 need to be moved to the discontinued list and the A1020 be added to the current list.

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Updates to Sony and Yamaha players made. I suspect that both transmit PCM at the higher bitrate, but I won't note anything until it's confirmed. Thanks!
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There is one advantage Oppo has over Sony - it plays SACD-R disks. None of Sony players do it.

See this plz, http://code.google.com/p/sacd-ripper/wiki/SACDRCompatiblePlayers
Most Sony BD players work with SACD-R.
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Pioneer BDP-450 (88,2kHz, 24bit)

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Pioneer BDP-450 (88,2kHz, 24bit)

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Can anyone confirm what is the highest PCM rate being transmitted when playing SACD's on the Sony Blu-ray player BDP-S5100
I have an older Sony receiver that is only transmitting PCM 44.1 (because I am forced to use the coaxial cable since my receiver is only HDMI 1.0)

I'm trying to find what rate this player will actually transmit through PCM when playing SACD's.
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Can anyone confirm what is the highest PCM rate being transmitted when playing SACD's on the Sony Blu-ray player BDP-S5100
I have an older Sony receiver that is only transmitting PCM 44.1 (because I am forced to use the coaxial cable since my receiver is only HDMI 1.0)

I'm trying to find what rate this player will actually transmit through PCM when playing SACD's.

I have Sony BDP-S370, if PCM conversion is enabled, the highest sample rate is 176.4kHz. I think S5100 is the same.
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