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That is strange, I've never really come across a SACD the XA5400ES can't play. I assume it's not a hybrid SACD, though that shouldn't matter.

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I don't know what the rest of your system is like, but in a very revealing system the 5400ES doesn't come close to the BDP-95 or 105.

I sold my 5400ES and my Ayre C5xe because I just wasn't using them any more.

The 5400ES is a lot better than a lot of other players, but the SABRE DAC chips in the 95 and 105 are state-of-the-art.

They sound better than most players costing up to $8000.
Why $8000? Why not $7000 or $9000? Are you including taxes and shipping charges?
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Commsysman wrote: I don't know what the rest of your system is like, but in a very revealing system the 5400ES doesn't come close to the BDP-95 or 105.

I disagree. One of my systems is either balanced analog from an Ayre C-5xeMP through Parasound JC 2 BP to JC 1 mono blocks that drive KEF Reference 107/2 or Sony XA5400ES HDMI through a Bryston SP3 to the JC 2 BP or Oppo 105D HDMI through the SP3 to the JC 2 BP. Another system is either Oppo 105 HDMI though a Cary Cinema 12 to a Parasound A 21 amp that drives KEF LS50s or balanced analog from a Sony XA5400ES to the Cinema 12. Previously, both the Oppo and the Sony went direct to the JC 2. The Ayre is my clear choice for stereo; the Oppo is excellent with BDs, but less good with CDs and SACDs; the Sony balanced analog is very good with CDs and excellent with SACDs.
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The Ayre is my clear choice for stereo; the Oppo is excellent with BDs, but less good with CDs and SACDs; the Sony balanced analog is very good with CDs and excellent with SACDs.
Yep, the true magic in the XA5400es are its analog outputs. It was designed for SACD but I love its voicing on CDs as well. If one is looking for a mere CD transport to be passed by HDMI, there are probably better players.
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Yep, the true magic in the XA5400es is its analog outputs. It was designed for SACD but I love its voicing on CDs as well.
It doesn't look like the difference you heard was due to voicing of the player.



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I still love mine for both CD and SACD playback. I've really put my unit through its paces in the past five years and likely have as many hours on it as anyone I know of. The only problem that has ever arisen is a sticky tray drive that occasionally needs a nudge to close these days.

I dread the day it fails and I have to go looking for another disc player.
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I have two of them. I think they sound especially good with SACDs.
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I am seriously considering this player for SACD playback?
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I am seriously considering this player for SACD playback?
The XA5400 was basically designed and voiced around its DSD output through the analog connections. SACD playback is silky smooth and breathes with detailed audio reproduction. There were few SACD players ever made in its price range that outclass it.

Run a google search on vibration problems in the motor on certain CD pressings. Sony had to cut corners in places on the physical parts, which introduced mechanical quirks in a few isolated cases. I don't think it's a widespread problem but one you should be aware.
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The XA5400 was basically designed and voiced around its DSD output through the analog connections.
That's interesting. The XA5400ES sound is very close to that of my Ayre C-5xeMP for SACDs, but not so close for CDs.

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I am getting ready to take ownership of a 5400ES
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I will probably buy the Ayre next year for RBCD duty per your suggestion.
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I've somehow ended up with a surfeit of disc players. In addition to the Ayre C-5xeMP, I have an Esoteric SA-60, an Oppo 105 & 105D, and two Sony XA5400ES players. Funny thing is I use them all for different applications. Well, not the second Sony. I should probably sell that.

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Unless you need the analog outs for the 5400ES's D/A converter, you would be better off with the less expensive, but better new Sony universal player, the Sony UHP-H1 or whatever its model number. I own both and find the newer player better functionally.
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you will enjoy the sony, I have had mine for nearly a year now and it is used almost as much as my turntable. In my theater room I have an oppo 105d that is also very good for music playback. When I first got the sony I compared it to the oppo on sacd and cd. Both using analog connection (Audioquest Colorado interconnects) into my Classe CP50 pre amp. The difference supprisingly on sacd was not to different, maybe the sony was a little warmer in the midrange area but not by a huge margin. Going to cd was completely noticable, the Sony far exceeded the oppo with cd in every aspect. So the oppo stays in the theater for bluray music videos and sony with my 2 channel set up. This is a fine player, too bad it was discontinued. Let us know how it sounds to you when you get it. I dought you will be dissapointed.
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Unless you need the analog outs for the 5400ES's D/A converter, you would be better off with the less expensive, but better new Sony universal player, the Sony UHP-H1 or whatever its model number. I own both and find the newer player better functionally.
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you will enjoy the sony, I have had mine for nearly a year now and it is used almost as much as my turntable. In my theater room I have an oppo 105d that is also very good for music playback. When I first got the sony I compared it to the oppo on sacd and cd. Both using analog connection (Audioquest Colorado interconnects) into my Classe CP50 pre amp. The difference supprisingly on sacd was not to different, maybe the sony was a little warmer in the midrange area but not by a huge margin. Going to cd was completely noticable, the Sony far exceeded the oppo with cd in every aspect. So the oppo stays in the theater for bluray music videos and sony with my 2 channel set up. This is a fine player, too bad it was discontinued. Let us know how it sounds to you when you get it. I dought you will be dissapointed.

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When I first got the sony I compared it to the oppo on sacd and cd. Both using analog connection (Audioquest Colorado interconnects) into my Classe CP50 pre amp.
Was your analog connection balanced or single-ended? I too use both a Sony XA5400ES and Oppo BDP 105, and have compared their sounds in various configurations. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of sound from the balanced output of the Oppo into the Bryston SP3 -- usually I use an HDMI link. I don't think its so obvious the Sony sounds superior when balanced outputs are compared. Both sound very good to me, but I prefer the Ayre C-5xeMP for stereo, especially when playing red-book.

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Was your analog connection balanced or single-ended? I too use both a Sony XA5400ES and Oppo BDP 105, and have compared their sounds in various configurations. I was pleasantly surprised by the quality of sound from the balanced output of the Oppo into the Bryston SP3 -- usually I use an HDMI link. I don't think its so obvious the Sony sounds superior when balanced outputs are compared. Both sound very good to me, but I prefer the Ayre C-5xeMP for stereo, especially when playing red-book.

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They are balanced (xlr) Colorado interconnects. Have been thinking of re-evaluating but have not had a minute. Not sure the reason for the difference in cd playback but I sure prefered the 5400. I would have thought sacd would be more obvious on the sony if there was a difference but it was hard to really hear anything significant between the two. Both great units, but the sony sure floats my boat on cd's.

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I've always thought the XA5400 imparts a DSD-sound quality to standard redbook CDs. Whereas many modern DACs tend to bring out the rougher edges of PCM recordings in brutal clarity.
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I've always thought the XA5400 imparts a DSD-sound quality to standard redbook CDs. Whereas many modern DACs tend to bring out the rougher edges of PCM recordings in brutal clarity.

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They are balanced (xlr) Colorado interconnects. Have been thinking of re-evaluating but have not had a minute. Not sure the reason for the difference in cd playback but I sure prefered the 5400. I would have thought sacd would be more obvious on the sony if there was a difference but it was hard to really hear anything significant between the two. Both great units, but the sony sure floats my boat on cd's.
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I've somehow ended up with a surfeit of disc players. In addition to the Ayre C-5xeMP, I have an Esoteric SA-60, an Oppo 105 & 105D, and two Sony XA5400ES players. Funny thing is I use them all for different applications. Well, not the second Sony. I should probably sell that.

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db- you own some very sweet spinners. On SACD playback, how does the 5400ES fare against the Esoteric?
The Esoteric DV-60 was my 1st taste of SACD playback, in a Pass Labs, TAD speakers, Signal Cable/ Silent Source/Wireworld/ Audioquest system- a few years ago.
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On SACD playback, how does the 5400ES fare against the Esoteric?
Only for balanced analog stereo do I prefer the Sony for SACD play back, and for that it's very close to or with to the Ayre C-5xeMP, i.e., superb. The Ayre is my preferred player for CDs. The Esoteric is my preferred surround player.

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Only for balanced analog stereo do I prefer the Sony for SACD play back, and for that it's very close to or with to the Ayre C-5xeMP, i.e., superb. The Ayre is my preferred player for CDs. The Esoteric is my preferred surround player.

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