Originally Posted by clpetersen
Originally Posted by Sonic icons
Thank you for the list of publications in refereed scientific and engineering journals.
I did a quick search in the Web of Knowledge database using this search field:
audio and (dac or "digital to analog convertor*" or "digital analog convertor*") and (hear* or listen*)
Only two papers turned up, both about the use of DACs in hearing aid design. Probably someone else could design a better search.
edit, additional search:
(dac or "digital to analog convertor*" or "digital analog convertor*") and (hear* or listen*) not heart*
10 results, none appear relevant to "hearing differences between DACs".
You wrote: "I know that there are differences between DAC's because I heard them" Great, hope you continue to enjoy your system
Here you go:
Originally Posted by SoNic67
Why, you couldn't read the ESS quote from above, or even better the whole white paper? You need personalized service? You can look up AD, TI, Philips (Bruno Putzeys) whitepapers that tell the story of DAC chips problems and their evolution in time... I'm in no business to further educate you.
I think you have nothing to actually point to along the lines requested, and are just sending us on wild goose chases.
I know that there are differences between DAC's because I heard them.
Two words: sighted evaluation.
And manufacturers know that too, since they keep changing their chips.
That way they can say that they have something new. Below I show that they generally make no claims about audibility.
They are competing for money, that have to improve their products. Otherwise they would still use the 1990 chips...
It is possible that the improvements have nothing to do with audible benefits. reduced cost, improved numerical specs, simpler interfacing, additional functions are all salable improvements but have nothing to do with improved sound quality.
Only you think that there is no difference between them,
I never ever said that there are no differences. Please stop misrepresenting my viewpoint!
because you can't hear it and Arnyk either.
Nobody can, provided they do proper listening tests. Obviously not even the manufacturers can, or else they would be touting them.
Thinking that you two know better than all the EE used by the above companies since 90's (two decades) is proof of what I said.
I never ever said that I know better than all EEs. In face many EEs know what I know. Please stop misrepresenting my viewpoint!
A little searching shows that the paper mentioned above has no instances of ABX. audible, DBT, ABC/hr, blind, listening or test. They are just tossing abstract concepts and meaningless numbers around.
If you can do better searching than I, be my guest!