Originally Posted by mvppsu
I know the DACs don't make a difference idea is popular around here, but anyone who says this hasn't really compared them in a decent system.
How do you know that?
Do you have security cameras on every decent audio system in the world, and watch to see that nobody who says things about DACs that you disagree with has ever listened to any of those systems?
That is a ludicrous idea!
You can't know what you claim to know!
I think you would see an improvement with a new DAC, but the receiver's analog section may still be limiting the quality of playback.
Who would be stupid enough make global claims after only doing this kind of experiment with just a receiver? Most of the DAC listening tests I've done were done with high quality separates. In some cases the DAC was connected to the input of the power amp with no active components in-between!
And to take advantage of the dac you would have to listen in direct bypass which means your sub wouldn't work either.
Unless the subwoofer had its own active crossover, which was done in some cases. In other cases full-range speakers were used -serious full-range speakers not just little babies with 6 inch woofers.
Having said that, if you want to know if the dac will make a difference, you can always go down to your dealer and ask them for a demo unit, or order from a store like audioadvisor.com that has a no questions asked return policy and give it a try in your own system. If there is no difference, send it back.
Its as if dealers are the only resources that exist? How about borrowing a DAC or just ponying up and buying a DAC outright to keep? Been there, done that.
How about doing DBTs related to DACs using a high end system belonging to a DAC true believer? Been there, done that too.
I'm betting there will be a difference, whether the difference is worth the cost will be up to you and may be effected by the quality of the rest of the system.
If you are betting then you are kind of admitting that you don't have any relevant experience of your own. I do.
My first dac was a PS Audio Digital Link III. I've since upgraded to a Perfectwave and also own a Oppo BDP-95. I've compared these with the DACs in an Anthem D2V, McIntosh MX119, and multiple receivers over the years and there is a difference
between all of them.
Two words: sighted evaluations.