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Hi-

I've added a NuForce U192S USB to SPDIF adapter to my setup.

My question is:

How much of a difference/benefit is a standalone DAC such as the BIFROST from Schiit vs the DAC built into my receiver(s)?

I have a Yamaha RX-V473 connected to a pair of Definitive Technology Studio Monitor 450's
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Onkyo TX-NR905 connected to a pair of Definitive Technology Mythos Ones.

What component is now the weakest link in the chain?

Thanks!

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How much of a difference/benefit is a standalone DAC such as the BIFROST from Schiit vs the DAC built into my receiver(s)?
Not enough that you could hear the difference in a fair test.
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No matter how much you spend, the answer to this question will always be the same: Speakers. They are the weakest component in every working system out there.

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Hi-

I've added a NuForce U192S USB to SPDIF adapter to my setup.

My question is:

How much of a difference/benefit is a standalone DAC such as the BIFROST from Schiit vs the DAC built into my receiver(s)?

From negligible to zero.
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I have a Yamaha RX-V473 connected to a pair of Definitive Technology Studio Monitor 450's and an
Onkyo TX-NR905 connected to a pair of Definitive Technology Mythos Ones.

You should probably be looking at subwoofers instead of spinning your wheels with DACs.

The 6.5 inch woofer in the 450's are not serious sources of true bass. The 10" bass radiator is just a passive port replacement. They could have made the box a bit bigger and used a port to do what it does.

The Mythos Ones have two 5 1/4 woofers which again fall well short of providing serious bass dynamic range. The other two 5 inch devices are also just passive port replacements.
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What component is now the weakest link in the chain?

In your and everybody else's story that never changed - the weakest link is the room, followed by the speakers. You can improve them, but they will under perform the rest of your system for the foreseeable future, as will my speakers and everybody else's.
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From negligible to zero.
You should probably be looking at subwoofers instead of spinning your wheels with DACs.

The 6.5 inch woofer in the 450's are not serious sources of true bass. The 10" bass radiator is just a passive port replacement. They could have made the box a bit bigger and used a port to do what it does.

The Mythos Ones have two 5 1/4 woofers which again fall well short of providing serious bass dynamic range. The other two 5 inch devices are also just passive port replacements.
In your and everybody else's story that never changed - the weakest link is the room, followed by the speakers. You can improve them, but they will under perform the rest of your system for the foreseeable future, as will my speakers and everybody else's.

Oops... I didn't even think to mention the subs... I've got a sub connected to each system.
Very big difference before vs after... biggrin.gif

So, now that I can check that box, what should I be looking at next? confused.gif
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How much of a difference/benefit is a standalone DAC such as the BIFROST from Schiit vs the DAC built into my receiver(s)?

I just read your questions asked on another website. It's interesting how many more replies you received.
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From negligible to zero.
You should probably be looking at subwoofers instead of spinning your wheels with DACs.

The 6.5 inch woofer in the 450's are not serious sources of true bass. The 10" bass radiator is just a passive port replacement. They could have made the box a bit bigger and used a port to do what it does.

The Mythos Ones have two 5 1/4 woofers which again fall well short of providing serious bass dynamic range. The other two 5 inch devices are also just passive port replacements.
In your and everybody else's story that never changed - the weakest link is the room, followed by the speakers. You can improve them, but they will under perform the rest of your system for the foreseeable future, as will my speakers and everybody else's.

Oops... I didn't even think to mention the subs... I've got a sub connected to each system.
Very big difference before vs after... biggrin.gif

So, now that I can check that box, what should I be looking at next? confused.gif

ROOM.
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