Originally Posted by smitty
Can you describe or link me to the tests involving JND's that you reference above? You're not talking about the tests that ask people to distinguish between test tones are you? Your reference to the detection level being under one second seems to suggest that type of test. That's an entirely different scenario, and the reliance on those tests is one of the skeptics "myths."
There is no JND paper for music per say, as it has no meaning really. Different music has different thresholds.
There is no JND papers for long term listening in a Journal paper since scientists know that that is also meaningless since memory for small and threshold area differences is rather short, very short.
But, there is a paper comparing the ability to level match different types of sounds, speech, pink noise, different music, etc:Soulodre, Gilbert A., Lavoie, Michael C., and Norcross, Scott G. The Subjective Loudness of Typical Program Material, AES Convention Paper 5892, 115th Convention, Oct 2003.
and, there is a long term amp test under DBT conditions, listening to music:Shanefield, Daniel, " The Great Ego Crunchers: Equalized, Double Blind Testing,: Hi-Fidelity, Mar 80, pg 57-61.
and there are several JND papers, using the most sensitive signals known:Florentine, Mary, et al 'Level Discrimination as a Function of Level for Tones from .25 to 16kHz. Journal of Acoustic Society of America, 81(5) May 1987, pg 1528-1541.
Zwislocki, J and Jordan H. 'On the Relations of Intensity JND's to Loudness and Neural Noise,' Journal of Acoustics Society of America, 79(3), Mar 86, pg 772-780.
So, if this doesn't satisfy ones curiosity, I suppose you can do your own study, or convince some organization or university to do one.
Or, perhaps, someone has already done one but the citation is just elusive?