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Well, I spent a considerable amount of time wrestling with the included dipole in an effort to get the best reception.

A useful dipole trick is described here:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/tilted.htm

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I took a chance and bought the following antenna from Radio Shack.

Rabbit ears optimized for reception of circularly polarized FM signals are described here:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/rabbit.htm

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Does anyone know what retail stores have this in stock? In the NJ area even better
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A useful dipole trick is described here:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/tilted.htm



Rabbit ears optimized for reception of circularly polarized FM signals are described here:

http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/rabbit.htm

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Can you explain what they mean by tilted dipole?

If it is normally set up as a "Y", do they mean to make it look like ">-" ?
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Normally a dipole and its feedline form a T, with the dipole horizontal and the feedline dropping vertically. To tilt, rotate everything 45 degrees in the plane containing the wires.

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I didn't see this on here anywhere, maybe I just missed it, there's a $50 rebate on these.

http://www.hdradio.com/rebate/i/alli...2_20080701.pdf
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It's fourth from the bottom. All eligible Sony models are listed together: XT-100HD, XDR-F1HD, XDR-S10HDIP, XDR-S3HD
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I meant the fact that there's a rebate in this thread. Maybe I just missed it.
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It's fourth from the bottom. All eligible Sony models are listed together: XT-100HD, XDR-F1HD, XDR-S10HDIP, XDR-S3HD

Cool, 1/2 price! Seems weird that it's coming from someone not the manufacturer; I guess they want to push the technology?

Has anyone gotten this rebate?

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I just took the plunge: J&R seems to have it in stock for $99, so with the $50 rebate the $49 price is irresistible.
As for the rebate, this same organization already offered rebates on HD tuners back when the first Sangean model came out, so I kinda' believe that the rebate will be honored.

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I just took the plunge: J&R seems to have it in stock for $99, so with the $50 rebate the $49 price is irresistible.
As for the rebate, this same organization already offered rebates on HD tuners back when the first Sangean model came out, so I kinda' believe that the rebate will be honored.

Amazon had it as well, with free shipping. Hard to beat for the money.

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I just bought one from DataVision for $89 with free shipping. $39 AR, great deal.
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I really don't need another HD radio since I have one in my pickup truck, horse barn, and basement, but given the great reviews, rebate, and very low price I may just get another one. Here is the URL for Datavision's Sony XDR-F1HD:

http://www.datavis.com/cgi-bin/produ...prrfnbr=478228
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Here's a great review of the tuner, even has some modifications:
http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/xdr-f1hd.htm
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Here's a great review of the tuner, even has some modifications:
http://ham-radio.com/k6sti/xdr-f1hd.htm

Having come full circle, the thread moved on to a higher plane.

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I got this for my office at work.
Been trying to find a decent antenna to pick up the most channels.
Since it is inside an office building (but one floor) I didn't expect much.
First, I tried the Terk indoor antenna specifically for AM/FM digital.
It has a nice footprint and it wasn't cheap for a non powered so I thought it was just the ticket.
I think it picked up a single HD channel, it fared better for AM, picking up my sports station with ease but not sure that is worth $20.
Then I tried my tried and true silver satin(?) powered antenna that I use for OTA HDTV.
Its FM only and although it was much better it still didn't outperform:

The included dipole. I'm amazed how this white lamp cord can pick up the majority of my HD stations and the ones it doesn't sound great in analog anyway.
If anyone else has a suggested antenna, let me know.
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Picked up a sony xdr-f1hd from J&R- also quick shipping, got it in 2 days. Hooked it into my old tv antenna in eastern CT. I get about 15 clean hd stations without moving the antenna. Wifey wanted to get rid of the satellite bill.
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Having come full circle, the thread moved on to a higher plane.


The review from the first post, duh. I came across that somewhere else, don't remember where.
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Mine gets pretty warm- I could detect a plastic smell when we ran it for a few hours last night. Is this normal? I'm almost tempted to put a small fan in it.
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Man, either I've got cooties or this forum is -DEAD-! My new XDR-F1HD runs real hot and smells like burning plastic. Anybody else having this problem? Does the smell go away or is this thing gonna burn up? Thanks.
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They run hot, mine hasn't burned up yet or anything and I keep it on top of my receiver for now which makes it run hotter and still no problems yet.
I suppose if it really bugs people you could open it up and see if the hot parts can be heat sinked or not to keep the temp down a bit.
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Just got one Wednesday from J&R, not running as hot as I thought it might.
It retains the pre-sets longer with-out power than I expected (I move it from house to garage to attic)
I wish the pre-sets were more car radio like.

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It's sort of amazing when a $50 tuner wipes the floor with the tuner section of a fairly advanced (Onkyo TX-SR705) AV receiver. My thanks to this forum for singling out this extraordinary little box and the rebate that makes it such a great buy.

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My new XDR-F1HD runs real hot and smells like burning plastic. Anybody else having this problem? Does the smell go away or is this thing gonna burn up?

Mine did that, but it went away after a day or so. That's pretty common for a lot of new electronics.
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Thanks Guys. At least I know its fairly normal for these. Now I have a backup if my toaster oven dies!
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Just ordered one of these from Amazon. $50 after the rebate- wow! It seems like a great little unit. I'm a bit of a tube freak so hot running gear is normal for me!


Great info in this thread!
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Mine runs hot, but my audio rack is full of things -- PS3, Onkyo AVR, etc. -- that run hot, so it fits right in.

Very, very impressed with the FM/HD performance using the supplied dipole, living about 15 miles south of Center City Philadelphia. AM, less so, but I'm certain I need to work on the antenna issue. Fortunately the one AM HD station I really care about simulcasts on FM as an HD2 station.

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Mine gets pretty warm- I could detect a plastic smell when we ran it for a few hours last night. Is this normal? I'm almost tempted to put a small fan in it.

I also got a plastic smell from mine for a few days after unpacking it. It did go away, so I think its just outgassing something from the manufacturing process. I don't think its from running hot.
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It's sort of amazing when a $50 tuner wipes the floor with the tuner section of a fairly advanced (Onkyo TX-SR705) AV receiver. My thanks to this forum for singling out this extraordinary little box and the rebate that makes it such a great buy.

I agree, this tuner makes a great companion to any modern surround sound receiver. I've been frustrated by the relatively poor FM tuners in nearly all modern surround sound receivers, including those costing over a thousand bucks. Even midrange stereo receivers from the 80s have much better tuners than anything you can get today. This tuner lets you have both an excellent FM tuner and a full-featured modern 7.1 channel receiver. Now I can stop using my old stereo receiver's tuner because I can't stand how the FM sounds in my 5.1 receiver.
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A few more "first impressions" reviews:
http://www.audiokarma.org/forums/sho...d.php?t=165097
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Just recieved mine today. I hooked up to my Adcom tuner/pre and used my Bose QC 2 headphones for some quick checks. With the supplied antennas I was able to pick up 1110 AM in Omaha. That is about 100 miles away and on a hot day. I had one bar and the HD blinking, but would not go HD. With high power the station might be solid HD. Tuned in the Radio Disney across town (1190 AM) and was amazed that it was in solid HD and 3 bars. My JVC HDR1 in the car has trouble some days with that signal. It still amazes me that AM can sound that good in HD. On to FM, was able to compare about 8 HD stations to the Adcom tuner. About 3 stations were great, really close to CD quality. Vastly superior to the non-HD. 3 stations sounded mostly the same. 2 stations sounded worse. It really points out the poor job setting up the HD feed at some stations.

This tuner is really impressive, especially for $50 net price (using rebate). No reason to list the features lacking since they have been addressed before by others.

Question: I was planning to take this to work, but wondering if anyone has tried to hook up powered computer speakers by using a Y adaptor RCA (Sony calls stereo pin jacks, LOL) to 1/8 stereo?
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