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post #1 of 9 Old 09-07-2011, 11:24 AM - Thread Starter
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... is this the industry's idea on how to make HD Radio a success? Offer mostly simulcasts and a few niche stations that attract small audiences?
http://www.radioinsights.com/2011/09...s-awkward.html

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In the simulcast department, two local stations here are using HD Radio as STLs for analog FM stations.

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Seriously? Wow. Way to save T1 charges, I guess. Though if it's an AM using HD as an STL to an FM, it's going to be REAL entertaining come a thunderstorm.

I find it a little odd than an AM radio would even WORK inside an FM transmitter shack. Then, again, this probably isn't consumer gear.

Reminds me of my days at KAKC in Tulsa. The FM was the backup STL for the AM. If the balanced lines went down (which often happened), we just "took" the FM air. It was much better quality than the backup Marti. Of course, that was in the days when AM music stations still had an audience.

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Yes there is a noncommercial student station that is using their college station's HD-2 to feed a secondary analog FM station which is licensed as a translator. They regularly announce the analog frequency but only occasionally mention they're also on the other station's HD-2. There has been some discussion about whether this is legal since the translator is broadcasting original programming but its noncommercial status apparently lets them do this.

Entercom is letting a noncommercial Christian Contemporary station (WAY-FM) use an HD-2 to feed yet another a translator which is broadcasting original programming. I don't know if Entercom is getting compensated for it.

It's likely that Entercom is using the HD-2 "Northwest Bands Only" station to feed programming to a disused 5 KW AM station they got for cheap but don't want to pull the plug on. An HD Radio at the transmitter is a lot cheaper than a real STL feed. The HD Radio station ID reminds us that it is also on 910 AM in case we get tired of the crystal clear digital reception.

(And Portland rarely has thunderstorms!)

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Of course, that was in the days when AM music stations still had an audience.

so at least 30 years ago...

I wish AM stereo hadn't screwed itself over...damn you Leonard Kahn
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No kidding.

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We still have an AM stereo station here.

Two channels of staticky low-fi are supposed to be better than one but they aren't to me.

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We still have an AM stereo station here.

Two channels of staticky low-fi are supposed to be better than one but they aren't to me.

then you have a poor receiver; the one station in detroit in am stereo still souinds pretty good on my denon tu680 NAB tuner....
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Talking about when AM played music...I found this clip from the late '70s/early '80s, of a popular Minot, ND station, complete with the "deep voiced" announcer, sidekick, AWFUL jokes, and that heavy reverb on the mic.

I was a weekend DJ while attending H.S. in '89 for an FM station. By then 1430 was a neglected simulcast of our FM's classic rock signal and had a horrible buzz. (Oh yah, they carried Vikings games on Sundays.)

I went back to Minot this summer. Nothing at 1430 at all, I heard nobody wanted to pay the license fee for renewal. Anyway, I thought some of you might like to hear a pretty bad '70s air check someone thought worthy to archive. MORE REVERB PEOPLE!


www.youtube.com/watch?v=WVLZmLt9AoY

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