If you really are that interested in his list though, you will see that the PB13 vastly outstrips the MFW.
Dont know what that means to the discussion on how commerical subs have come way down in $$$ and have incredible performance too the point where they can compete against DIY subs. I love the PB13, I just wont spend $1400 so you are saying just build a DIY sub that is equal to it for half the price? I always agreed with that but Craig built the DIY sub and it didnt come close (was that his fault? was it a bad build?)
I am sure even craig will tell you that it oversimplifies things.
I love the ranking list ( I have followed it since the start), its clean and it has taken lots of time to create. He is the only guy to take on so many subs and do a non-bias and honest test without compensation. Simplified?? Maybe but oversimplifying works in the long run for most people. Especially me
Sometimes we get caught up in it all and tend to let bias take over.
Elemental Designs A7-900 ($2200 ID/SI): 116 points (63-53)
Epik Conquest ($1599 ID): 112 points (60-52)
SVS PB13-Ultra ($1499 ID): 109 points (57-52)
Epik Castle ($999 ID): 109 points (59-50)
AV123 MFW-15 Duals: 109 points (56-53) (note, duals were tested as duals are offered as a package)
Creative Sounds Dual SDX-15 driver + Behringer EP-2500 Amp + Behringer DEQ2496 ($1630 ID): 105 points (57-48)
JL Audio Fathom 113 ($3500 BM): 103 points (53-50)
AV123 MFW-15 ($599 ID): 103 points (53-50)
Def Tech Trinity ($3000 BM): 102 points (54-48)
Velodyne DD-18 ($5000 BM): 100 points (50-50)
ACI Maestro ($2400 ID): 97 points (47-50)
eD A5-350 ($715 ID/SI): 96 points (50-46)
JL Audio Fathom 112 ($2600 BM): 95 points (45-50)
Hsu VTF-3 HO + Turbo ($999 ID): 94 points (47-47)
Hsu VTF-3 HO w/o Turbo ($899 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III + Turbo ($799 ID): 92 points (45-47)
Epik Valor ($549 ID): 91 points (44-47)
Hsu VTF-3 Mark III w/o Turbo ($699 ID): 91 points (45-46)
SVS PB12-Ultra: 90 points (47-43)
Axiom EP-500 ($1230 ID/SI): 90 points (43-47)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III + Turbo ($599 ID): 88 points (42-46)
SVS PB12-Plus/2 ($1299 ID): 87 points (47-40)
SVS PB12-NSD ($599 ID): 86 points (43-43)
Hsu VTF-2 Mark III w/o Turbo ($499 ID): 86 points (40-46)
Rocket UFW-12 ($999 ID): 85 points (provisional) (35-50)
Elemental Designs A2-300 ($350 ID/SI): 83 points (44-39)
SVS PB10-NSD ($429 ID): 83 points (43-40)
Dana Audio 600 ($869 ID): 83 points (36-47)
Rocket X-Sub ($199 ID): 78 points (34-44)
BIC H-100 ($229 eBay): 78 points (40-38)
That list does show the $599 sub competes with the big boys, you say the PB13 VASTLY outperforms it....109 vs 103 is a HUGE difference? and the duals matched the PB13 ($1499 vs $999).
Build a $600 DIY sub and look at the chart, then look at the $600 comerical chart are they that much different? I must be missing something on the charts. Is it splitting hairs or is it more?
BTW, This wasnt a thread or an insult to DIY but it seems people take it as "how dare someone talk about comercial subs vs DIY" in a DIY forum.
If I was to post this thread in the SUB forum. the posts would be 100% opposite. Kind of funny actually.