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Going with a Exodus shiva x

6.2 cubes at 22hz via 1 6" aero port

still desiding if i want to go with a pro amp or plate amp... i can get a europower 2500 for clost to the same price of a L550

this is my first sketch of it

the enclosure will reside in my bar that divides the kitchen from the living/dining room the sub will fire 90degrees off axis from the listener and will be about 6ft from the TV


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If you can afford to get a eq.2 or something to function as a high pass filter in your budget I say go with the ep2500. More power and more ability to grow later with more subs.
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quick sketch of the layout... u can see the shiva hiding in the bar

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ahh now i have the chance to get a ascendant audio avalanche 18 for $290 vs the $225 for the shiva could run the avalanche in 6 cubes sealed ahhhh what should i do
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ahh now i have the chance to get a ascendant audio avalanche 18 for $290 vs the $225 for the shiva could run the avalanche in 6 cubes sealed ahhhh what should i do

Get the 18 and put it in a huge ported box
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not possible.. iv got around 6.5 cubes in the bar and thats really the only space i have to work with .... so its eighter 1 12 ported or 1 15 or 18 sealed
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Nice Idea....and might i add a few points. You will need a High Pass as DH mentioned, and the EP2500 may need level matching to the AVR, so the Behringer MIc2200 is a viable and affordable option that does both and adds a single band of adjustable PeQ as well.

http://www.behringer.com/EN/Products/MIC2200.aspx

Why not lower the tune to 16-17hz and get the most extension possible. Since it's inside the bar, you're not fixed to port lengths since you can run them externally from the box but inside the bar! You won't loose net box volume due to port displacement either. Two 4" ports at 38" each will get to 16hz without port compression or chuffing. Use the PE precision ports and add 4" pvc pipe to extend the length as desired. Truthfully i'd rather see you do sealed than tune a Shiva to 22hz. All the good stuff rolls off after 22hz at a pretty steep rate unlike the sealed which will still give you extension into the teens and won't sound bloated with room gain. The 16hz option acts like an LLT and has a slight rolloff before tune allowing rum gain to do it's thing in proportion to the rest of the spectrum instead of an exaggerated hump from 25hz on down.
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well after doin some playing around 6.2 @ 16hz gives me a -3 at 24.2hz and -5.5 at 16hz then it drops off pretty steep


then 6.2@22hz my -3 is 20.5hz and my -5.5 is 18.8 the 22hz box is a pretty smooth and steady roll off at 25hz
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well after doin some playing around 6.2 @ 16hz gives me a -3 at 24.2hz and -5.5 at 16hz then it drops off pretty steep


then 6.2@22hz my -3 is 20.5hz and my -5.5 is 18.8 the 22hz box is a pretty smooth and steady roll off at 25hz

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here is a graph i did for a shiva x 6.2@22 vs a ED 19ov sealed 5.5

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I thought we were comparing a Shiva at 22hz to a Shiva at 16hz?
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i just did that cause u said u would rather see me go sealed but here is 16 vs 22 vs sealed


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Model up a Mael-x in a sealed box, I bet that will be a great option. At least for me a ported shiva or a sealed mael-x, I'd go with the mael every time.
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Model up a Mael-x in a sealed box, I bet that will be a great option. At least for me a ported shiva or a sealed mael-x, I'd go with the mael every time.

There's only the missing $280 to contend with then!
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[quote=mobeious;16567707]i just did that cause u said u would rather see me go sealed but here is 16 vs 22 vs sealed


Don't forget the room gain... expect 6-12db of that from 25hz on down. It'll fill the gap in the Anechoic respose graphs right quickly. Your Sim doesn't show the hump at 23hz either for the 22hz tuned Shiva. Add the room gain to that and you've got a real mess on your hands.

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mael is in white

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Sorry I mean the avalanche, I think it models fairly close to the mael-x. I'm away from winisd or I'd look at it myself.
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well i think im picking up a custom HT built TC3000 15 found it for 200 shippped
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Going with a Exodus shiva x

6.2 cubes at 22hz via 1 6" aero port

still desiding if i want to go with a pro amp or plate amp... i can get a europower 2500 for clost to the same price of a L550

this is my first sketch of it

the enclosure will reside in my bar that divides the kitchen from the living/dining room the sub will fire 90degrees off axis from the listener and will be about 6ft from the TV



haven't read to whole thread, but get the pro amp. just compare the uF capacitance...most plates don't stand a chance...

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haven't read to whole thread, but get the pro amp. just compare the uF capacitance...most plates don't stand a chance...


I'll add that he needs to be prepared for the noise if it's to be installed in the immediate area around the tv.

I've got a EP1500 and did the fan mod and got it to tolerable but in my close quarters living room it's still a little loud for my tastes.
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good point.

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ya i think im going to do a plate amp to just keep it simple i dont think ill ever use the 2500 watts im lookin at a TC2000 15 right now ... its between that and the shiva x
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ya i think im going to do a plate amp to just keep it simple i dont think ill ever use the 2500 watts im lookin at a TC2000 15 right now ... its between that and the shiva x

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