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Can contact lilmike for the plot but there was another driver modeled that worked great and had just a little more excursion than the danley driver. The Alpine Type-R. Black cone not the old grey version. Progressive surround up to 32mm I think one way. Handles 1000rms also 1/2 the price of the danley or LMSR. Thinking of testing a pair myself in the next couple months actually. biggrin.gif
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Smile DTS-10 with DSPeaker

Hey I haven't posted in a while but have been continuing to enjoy my DTS-10 for going on 2 years now. Up until recently, I had been using the Behringer Feedback Destroyer Pro to EQ my DTS-10. Maybe its that I was too lazy to really dig in and tweak the Feedback Destroyer parametric filters, but I was never totally happy with the end EQ result. I was in the process of searching around for a subsonic filter and came across the DSPeaker Anti-Mode 8033 Automatic Bass Correction box. http://www.dspeaker.com/en/products/...ode-8033.shtml I'm very happy with this product and it has really improved the overall sound of the DTS-10 in my application. And it comes with a 10Hz built-in subsonic filter. You might want to check it out!
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Hey I haven't posted in a while but have been continuing to enjoy my DTS-10 for going on 2 years now. Up until recently, I had been using the Behringer Feedback Destroyer Pro to EQ my DTS-10. Maybe its that I was too lazy to really dig in and tweak the Feedback Destroyer parametric filters, but I was never totally happy with the end EQ result. I was in the process of searching around for a subsonic filter and came across the DSPeaker Anti-Mode 8033 Automatic Bass Correction box. http://www.dspeaker.com/en/products/...ode-8033.shtml I'm very happy with this product and it has really improved the overall sound of the DTS-10 in my application. And it comes with a 10Hz built-in subsonic filter. You might want to check it out!
Funny, I was just doing a search for this sub this morning, thanks for sharing!

Is the DTS-10 still available in kit form or are those days over?
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Funny, I was just doing a search for this sub this morning, thanks for sharing!

Is the DTS-10 still available in kit form or are those days over?
No more kits are available... I called a while back when I was looking for them for my setup... I ended up finding a pair used.

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If the kit is no longer available can we get plans? Substitute drivers list?
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If the kit is no longer available can we get plans? Substitute drivers list?
No legit plans are available as far as I know... You might be able to search the net and find someone who made up their own plans from looking at the images of the DIY speaker threads.

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I always wanted one of these kits. I am finally able to build my own media room, and probably won't be able to get my hands on one.
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These kits were, without doubt, the audio bargain of the decade. I shipped two to Australia and they are an awesome addition to my room. I hope for your sake that Danley run the promo again. They were great people to deal with as well.

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I wish they would have done another round of the DTS-10 and done a TH50 kit. I'd take a pair of TH-50's myself.
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Is there anything equivalent or comparable currently on the market?
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The th50s. Now you're talking.

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The Abbot. I am unaware of anything locally available here in Sydney for the cost.

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On the market, no. You could build something that can outperform the DTS-10 for the same amount of money or less. Depends on which design you use. But a far as buying direct no. Nothing I can think of compares to the DTS-10. Extension or spl.
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Where are you located at abbott? And what are you wanting sub wise?

Lots of designs around if you dont mind building. Some use very cheap drivers while others use more expensive ones.
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The th50s. Now you're talking.
I can't seem to find a place to purchase this kit.
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On the market, no. You could build something that can outperform the DTS-10 for the same amount of money or less. Depends on which design you use. But a far as buying direct no. Nothing I can think of compares to the DTS-10. Extension or spl.
I was actually referring to a DIY kit. I have an ed A7-450 now. That will be the last retail sub I buy.
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There are not any TH-50 kits. I wish. They did not go as low as the DTS-10 but excelled above 20hz. Anyways you could build a LilWrecker(LW) design which uses a Alpine Type S 15" Those cost about 280 dollars for the driver. Then just build the cabinet. Or if your after monster output then build a Ghorn. That design uses a TC Ultra 18 but costs about 12-1300 for just the driver after shipping. Most people would be very happy with just a pair of LW. They are budget friendly and get down low. Or you can get more spl and not as low and build a Micro Wrecker(MW) That uses the same Alpine 15" and drops off after 20hz but has more spl higher up than the LW in comparison.

So there are always other routes for your subwoofer wants. Just depdends what you want to spend
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Great subs, and yes deal of the decade. Still very happy with them. Was just thinking the other day how much driver and power would have to be on that same wall for the same output. I've two of them and played with a couple drivers. Ran a few Lab12C's in one cabinet for awhile and honestly wasn't much different. I'd say power wise(2.5" coil vs 3") they may be less but sound wise and quality were exactly the same. The other driver is the alpine typeR. Handles more power before bottoming and sounds equally good. Cost about he same as a lab12c, so more for the money. I wanted to try some RE drivers like the SEX12's, but lilmiike suggested after modeling them they would be too much driver for the horn so never dropped them in. The RE's are a lot of heavy spider, and heavier surround, more of an spl driver. I've them in dual opposed in my garage with a ep4k feeding over 2kw all day.

If in a diy situation now today with no kits; I'd probably look at the lilwrecker's.

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Finally got around to opening up my box. Who wants to see some driver gore?

Driver 1:



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Finally got around to opening up my box. Who wants to see some driver gore?
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I was actually hoping you guys to tell me why this keeps happening. Needless to say, I'm never buying an Eminence driver again.
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This are the drivers from your DTS-10?

If so do you have the proper Hpass in place? Is this your second pair of woofers or who are these from?

I know DSL uses custom drivers in their cabinet so regular ones wont work. LMSR 12's do work in the DTS 10 though if you need replacements.
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I was actually hoping you guys to tell me why this keeps happening. Needless to say, I'm never buying an Eminence driver again.
Have you damaged drivers in the cabinet before?
How much power are you using?
Are you sure all hatches and drivers are sealed when closed up?
Have EQ filters in place? what are they? Danley recommended ones to start with?
Which year cabinet do you own? Some earlier ones barely had enough clearance for the excursion of the surround. This can be remedied by just doubling the gasket to the face of the driver that's mounted facing inward.
It's always hard to tell by photos but many things can be at play together. If there's an air leak or one driver causes one the other will follow. The horn relies on a sealed system to work efficiently and apply full power. If not drivers will fail and yes the surround is the weakest part being foam.

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This are the drivers from your DTS-10?

If so do you have the proper Hpass in place? Is this your second pair of woofers or who are these from?

I know DSL uses custom drivers in their cabinet so regular ones wont work. LMSR 12's do work in the DTS 10 though if you need replacements.
Actually the LMSR isn't the only thing after sliced bread. The lab12C works as a replacement but can't handle as much wattage. DSL have replacements available that are OE; yes slightly different parameters and larger vented 3" coils. The Alpine Type R; SWR-12D4/2 also works and has more robust parts.
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While I know of the different parts that can be used Ricci has already tested the LMSR 12's and published his findings on his site.

I am curious to know more on how this destruction keeps happening.
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Is that driver rated for horn use? Horns have a lot more forces on the driver than sealed or ported boxes. You need a certain driver to them.

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Where are you located at abbott? And what are you wanting sub wise?

Lots of designs around if you dont mind building. Some use very cheap drivers while others use more expensive ones.
I am in Jax, FL. Don't mind building at all. I actually look forward to a DIY sub project.

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There are not any TH-50 kits. I wish. They did not go as low as the DTS-10 but excelled above 20hz. Anyways you could build a LilWrecker(LW) design which uses a Alpine Type S 15" Those cost about 280 dollars for the driver. Then just build the cabinet. Or if your after monster output then build a Ghorn. That design uses a TC Ultra 18 but costs about 12-1300 for just the driver after shipping. Most people would be very happy with just a pair of LW. They are budget friendly and get down low. Or you can get more spl and not as low and build a Micro Wrecker(MW) That uses the same Alpine 15" and drops off after 20hz but has more spl higher up than the LW in comparison.

So there are always other routes for your subwoofer wants. Just depdends what you want to spend
I will take a look at both the LW and Ghorn. I will be looking for that super low, pressurized feeling when I begin my build. These look like a good place to start!
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Your in FL so the Type S would be more like 120 dollars.
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Can someone post a link to the Ghorn design thread. I can't seem to locate it. I found the LilWrecker no problem.
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Measurements for the Ghorn here:
http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=system&id=45

There are quite a few build threads from others on AVS .
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Measurements for the Ghorn here:
http://www.data-bass.com/data?page=system&id=45

There are quite a few build threads from others on AVS .
Thanks! I think I am going to build one of these. I might as well go for overkill.
Edit: Damn... on second thought that might be too large for my media room. Lol

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