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post #10081 of 10088 Old 08-04-2014, 07:10 AM
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What about these 'new' drivers?

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This are the drivers from your DTS-10?

If so do you have the proper Hpass in place? Is this your second pair of woofers or who are these from?

I know DSL uses custom drivers in their cabinet so regular ones wont work. LMSR 12's do work in the DTS 10 though if you need replacements.
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Have you damaged drivers in the cabinet before?
How much power are you using?
Are you sure all hatches and drivers are sealed when closed up?
Have EQ filters in place? what are they? Danley recommended ones to start with?
Which year cabinet do you own? Some earlier ones barely had enough clearance for the excursion of the surround. This can be remedied by just doubling the gasket to the face of the driver that's mounted facing inward.
It's always hard to tell by photos but many things can be at play together. If there's an air leak or one driver causes one the other will follow. The horn relies on a sealed system to work efficiently and apply full power. If not drivers will fail and yes the surround is the weakest part being foam.



Actually the LMSR isn't the only thing after sliced bread. The lab12C works as a replacement but can't handle as much wattage. DSL have replacements available that are OE; yes slightly different parameters and larger vented 3" coils. The Alpine Type R; SWR-12D4/2 also works and has more robust parts.
Just got an email from Parts Express about these from Eminence, would they be suitable? http://www.parts-express.com/eminenc...gn=email080414

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Just got an email from Parts Express about these from Eminence, would they be suitable? http://www.parts-express.com/eminenc...gn=email080414
One look at the Xmax should give you the answer. (Hint: No!)
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One look at the Xmax should give you the answer. (Hint: No!)


Hmmm, didn't look at that, what is the Xmax of the supplied drivers?


(need to clear so space and build mine... )

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Just got an email from Parts Express about these from Eminence, would they be suitable? http://www.parts-express.com/eminenc...gn=email080414
No i'd say those aren't suitable at all. No real xmax and freq response is too high.

The lab12c is real close to the Danley OE drivers. Ran them in one of my cabs for about 35 days.

http://www.parts-express.com/eminenc...4-ohm--290-668

"I should really see what dB levels I'm pushing. Long as it can't foam my beer during a movie we are ok "
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No i'd say those aren't suitable at all. No real xmax and freq response is too high.

The lab12c is real close to the Danley OE drivers. Ran them in one of my cabs for about 35 days.

http://www.parts-express.com/eminenc...4-ohm--290-668

Interesting how much smaller the Voice Coil is 2.5" versus 4"


Only 35 days and then what...

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Interesting how much smaller the Voice Coil is 2.5" versus 4"


Only 35 days and then what...

Voice coil difference matters little depending on engineering. The Danley DTS10 driver has a 3". The alpine SWR 12 has a 2.5" but it's flat wound aluminum and forced venting handles as much as most copper wound 3" coils.

After 35 days or so I tried the alpines(borrowed), then after a couple days I put back the Danley OEM drivers. I wanted to measure but honestly lots of other projects got in the way. Sorry no data for you guys. If the alpine drivers last for reliability I'd say they are the best bang for the buck. Reason I question reliability is some mixed reviews on them. My guess is they are priced to sell and get abused so hard in car audio things happen. Some I'd chalk up to improper setups of cabinet and power expectations. Very well engineered motor venting.

"I should really see what dB levels I'm pushing. Long as it can't foam my beer during a movie we are ok "
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I put the LMSR-12 in my 3 dts-10's and they sound 3 x as good now.
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I put the LMSR-12 in my 3 dts-10's and they sound 3 x as good now.
The alpine have the advantage over the lms-r up to 120db....more area under the curve in the lowest freqs. 32mm one way just like the lms-r for a fraction of $, and honestly more motor tech.

I honestly plan to use these if the factory drivers die, or next upgrade itch.
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