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Ok, so I am new to HT but not to woodworking and that is why I have decided to build the Statements speakers. I just need a little help to see if all will be well with my current set up. So here is what I have and I know you smart ones out there will be able to help me.

My room:
13.5' x 22' - The way the room is set the screen and seating are 13.5' apart.

My Receiver:
Yamaha RX-V1065 7.2-Channel AV Receiver
* 7-channel 735W powerful surround sound (105W x 7)
* Decoders for HD audio formats: Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio; Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio
* Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification with discrete amp configuration
* Pure Direct
* Burr-Brown 192 kHz/24-bit DACs for all channels
* Intelligent Assignable amplifiers for bi-amp or Surround Back <-> Front Presence or Zone 2 connection

My questions:


So far as the set up, I am guessing one would use the Statement (full size) for the mains....
The Center for obviously the center.....
Would you use the Mini Statements for the surrounds?
Could the Mini Statements be used for the mains and surrounds?
Could my receiver even push the Full Size Statements well enough or the rest of them for that matter?
Will I need a sub for HT...if so, are there any DIY recommends to match the Statement set up?
Is 13.5' enough space for speakers that big?

I realize that some of these questions may sound basic....Like I said, new to HT.....but I am jazzed! My wife wanted and still wants an awesome home theater almost...if not more than I do...wait....JUST almost as much as I do.

Any help guys would be appreciated.

Thanks,

George G.
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My questions:


So far as the set up, I am guessing one would use the Statement (full size) for the mains....

Correct
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The Center for obviously the center.....

That or another Statement if you have an AT screen.
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Would you use the Mini Statements for the surrounds?

You could, sure, they would do nicely. Or the Monitors too.
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Could the Mini Statements be used for the mains and surrounds?

Yep.
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Could my receiver even push the Full Size Statements well enough or the rest of them for that matter?

I have no experience with it (AVR) so someone else should answer. But, if you found the mains needed more power, and the AVR has pre-outs, you could always add an external amp.
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Will I need a sub for HT...if so, are there any DIY recommends to match the Statement set up?

How, big, how loud how many and how much $? There are heaps of designs here, HTS or HTG that would suit your needs once you answer the questions.
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Is 13.5' enough space for speakers that big?

Distance from speakers to listening position? Yes.
Total length of room? Might be a bit small to do 7ch anyway.
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with the avr, make sure it is safe because i believe the statementsare 4 ohms? i believe that is what jim told me, so if thats true make sure you have an avr that can handle that load or you might need to get an external amp. they are exceptional speakers, a sub may not be required for music depending on room, but i would def have one for movies
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Regarding the mini-statements as surrounds... keep in mind that if you use a rear ported speaker that you will want it to be a couple feet from the wall for optimum performance. So check to see if there is a front port version of the statement. I'm sure there is.

Your room isn't super wide. So for your side speakers, consider speaker depth and how far it needs to be from the wall.

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I built the Statement center and love the sound. Anyway, just make sure you have room in the back of all Statements series. The open back mid needs about 18" to make it shines.

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My room:
13.5' x 22' - The way the room is set the screen and seating are 13.5' apart.


Would you use the Mini Statements for the surrounds?

NO - with a room only 13.5' wide you will not want to use any of the Statement series for your surrounds. The Statements have an open back mid, so you need at least 12 inches behind the speaker (18 inches is ideal). The smallest speaker in the Statement series (the monitors) are 22 inches tall and 12 inches deep, so the front of the speaker will have to be at least 24 inches into the room when properly placed.

There are several other speakers that are smaller and designed to be mounted on the wall (or even in the wall) that would be a better choice for your room.

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the monitors can have a far/near wall placement switch built in so they can be placed close to the wall
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My questions:

So far as the set up, I am guessing one would use the Statement (full size) for the mains....

Could the Mini Statements be used for the mains...

I am going to disagree a bit with some of the other posters here on this one and say in response to these questions "It depends". The full sized Statements were designed as full range speakers for music - that is, they "dig deep" and so they don't need a subwoofer for (most) music. For HT (Home Theater) though, you'll want a subwoofer to handle the LFE (Low Frequency Effects) in movies.

If you are planning to listen to music in the room and you don't want to use the subwoofer when you listen to music (that is, you just want a 2 channel system when listening to music), then the full sized Statements would be the best choice. If you are not planning to listen to music in the room, or you will always use the subwoofer when you do, then you could use the smaller versions of the Statements.

From my own personal experience, I can tell you that the Statement Monitors sound fantastic with the near wall crossover. If you decide to go with the smaller speakers for your room, I think the choice between the Minis and the Monitors for your left & right mains really comes down to do you want a floor standing speaker or do you want them on stands?

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If you are looking at the Statements I would caution you that they are physically very large. Look for photos of them in someones house. The mini statements are not that large and will "fit" in more spaces without taking over.

I would also consider the Clearwave Dynamic 4T and center.
I have been going back and forth with Jed and he is very helpful.

http://clearwaveloudspeaker.com/Dynamic/4T.html

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Clearwave 4TSE and 4CC build thread
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post19489740
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Thank you sooo much for all of your help. Very thorough and thoughtful. Thanks again.

From what you guys have said, I think I am going with the Mini Statements for mains and the Statement Monitors for the surrounds. Someone recommended I use 2 sub in both corners of the room. Any ideas for DIY subs on that?

Also, someone recommended I use a separate amp for my mains and center, any suggestions?

Thanks so muck guys!

George
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George,

I had the Emotiva LPA-7 (older model of UPA-7) and love it. I would look into the Emotiva amp sections and select whatever your wallet is allow. You can not go wrong at those prices. I would take the XPA-3 for the front 3 speakers and let your receiver handle the surrounds. That will save u some $$$ or unless you want XPA-5 to drive all channels. Have fun and take lots of pics. We love pics.

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Ok, so I am new to HT but not to woodworking and that is why I have decided to build the Statements speakers. I just need a little help to see if all will be well with my current set up. So here is what I have and I know you smart ones out there will be able to help me.

My room:
13.5' x 22' - The way the room is set the screen and seating are 13.5' apart.

My Receiver:
Yamaha RX-V1065 7.2-Channel AV Receiver
* 7-channel 735W powerful surround sound (105W x 7)
* Decoders for HD audio formats: Dolby TrueHD and DTS-HD Master Audio; Dolby Digital Plus and DTS-HD High Resolution Audio
* Digital ToP-ART and High Current Amplification with discrete amp configuration
* Pure Direct
* Burr-Brown 192 kHz/24-bit DACs for all channels
* Intelligent Assignable amplifiers for bi-amp or Surround Back <-> Front Presence or Zone 2 connection

My questions:


So far as the set up, I am guessing one would use the Statement (full size) for the mains....
The Center for obviously the center.....
Would you use the Mini Statements for the surrounds?
Could the Mini Statements be used for the mains and surrounds?
Could my receiver even push the Full Size Statements well enough or the rest of them for that matter?
Will I need a sub for HT...if so, are there any DIY recommends to match the Statement set up?
Is 13.5' enough space for speakers that big?

I realize that some of these questions may sound basic....Like I said, new to HT.....but I am jazzed! My wife wanted and still wants an awesome home theater almost...if not more than I do...wait....JUST almost as much as I do.

Any help guys would be appreciated.

Thanks,

George G.




Is there a picture of this Statement loudspeaker? I want to see it...
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Is there a picture of this Statement loudspeaker? I want to see it...

http://speakerdesignworks.com/index_page_2.html

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SEALED STATEMENTS


PORTED STATEMENTS
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The finish on those sealed are outstanding!
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SEALED STATEMENTS

Just to prevent any possible comfusion - that is a seal Statement on top of a seperate subwoofer.

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